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Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:12 am

When you use the 32 bit version of reaper you can still use the previous version of synth1 (1.12).
There was no functional change.

UnderwaterSunlight · Post by **UnderwaterSunlight** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:39 am

Just tested this plugin in its 64bit version natively in Ableton 8/64, Cubase 5/64 as well as Reaper 4/64. Platform is Windows 7/64.
In all 3 hosts I now and then get little crackles and dropouts.

And before you start chiming in for troubleshooting:
My system is very stable, lean and all other plugs are running well.

cuppa · Post by **cuppa** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:45 am

UnderwaterSunlight wrote:Just tested this plugin in its 64bit version natively in Ableton 8/64, Cubase 5/64 as well as Reaper 4/64. Platform is Windows 7/64.
In all 3 hosts I now and then get little crackles and dropouts.

And before you start chiming in for troubleshooting:
My system is very stable, lean and all other plugs are running well.

same here in reaper 64 bit...win 8.1 64 bit

UnderwaterSunlight · Post by **UnderwaterSunlight** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:48 pm

So, I experimented further:
I used jBridge to bridge Synth1/64 to 64bit. (Yes, this is possible.)

Now in Cubase 5, as long as I do not have the mouse pointer within Synth1's GUI, there are no audio glitches any more. In jBridge I didn't tweak the settings for this plugin, by the way.

I haven't tested this trick in Ableton or Reaper yet.
I use jBridge 1.65, which is the latest version.

If you have jBridge (even an older version), you will want to replicate the successful approach I undertook.
Then, please post your findings by all means.

I wrote Ichiro Toda an e-mail and referred him to this thread.

zorniko · Post by **zorniko** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 5:53 pm

Maomoondog wrote:Under the keyb/more tab I would have added the ability to import Nord lead patches/banks.

Nord Lead 1-2-x-Rack to Synth1 converter was on my site for last 3 or 4 years.
Before that, SOS guys made a lot of patches, but that wasn't close.
In fact, those patches made many people believe that Clavia's sounds are nothing special.
But, on the contrary, with a right tool you'll find that those banks are VERY good, little gems from the known pros.

EvilDragon wrote:Crashes Reaper if you remove the effect while the Option window is open.

numerologia wrote:...but there's a problem in Reaper: Everytime I load and remove one instance, the next time I load another synth1 the presets disappear, but if I don't remove the first instance the presets are fine.

UnderwaterSunlight wrote:I now and then get little crackles and dropouts.

cuppa wrote:same here in reaper 64 bit...win 8.1 64 bit

Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit, REAPER 64-bit, i5-3570: None of the above. Works perfectly

Maybe to check driver/device settings.
Also make sure you have synth1.ini in User\AppData\Roaming\Daichi\Synth1 or somewhere...
Maybe regtoini can repair some things, making that ini file you can edit easily?
BTW, I never used initsettings or regtoini files, so I can't tell for sure.
Sometimes features require to do start-stop, mostly when you're changing unison section or phase.
That can cause (temp) problems too.

Have a nice evening.

UnderwaterSunlight · Post by **UnderwaterSunlight** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:16 pm

Same behavior of Synth1/64(jBridged to 64bit) in Ableton/64 and Reaper/64 as I described in my previous post respecting Cubase/64.
As soon as I take the mouse pointer out of the Synth1 GUI there are no glitches any more when triggering/playing notes.

Of course, one'll want to step through presets without audible errors. I do this with a button on my Keyboard controller, using a ProgramChange command mapped to that. Thus, I am not coming close to Synth1's GUI when changing to a different preset.

UnderwaterSunlight · Post by **UnderwaterSunlight** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:23 pm

Numerologia:
Couldn't replicate the presets problem in Reaper 4.62/x64.

EvilDragon:
Yes, Reaper gets unstable when deleting the Synth1 plugin from an FX chain while options is open. Well anyway, this is not difficult to avoid, I think.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:31 pm

zorniko wrote:Also make sure you have synth1.ini in User\AppData\Roaming\Daichi\Synth1 or somewhere...

Of course I have it there. W7 SP1 Pro x64 here. There's nothing Synth1 related in my registry anymore since .ini file scheme was implemented to Synth1.

zorniko · Post by **zorniko** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:38 pm

I really can't replicate that opt bug

Who knows...

rasmusklump · Post by **rasmusklump** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:42 pm

cuppa wrote:
UnderwaterSunlight wrote:Just tested this plugin in its 64bit version natively in Ableton 8/64, Cubase 5/64 as well as Reaper 4/64. Platform is Windows 7/64.
In all 3 hosts I now and then get little crackles and dropouts.

And before you start chiming in for troubleshooting:
My system is very stable, lean and all other plugs are running well.
same here in reaper 64 bit...win 8.1 64 bit

I just came here to write the same:

Nuendo 5 64 Bit windows 7. Patches with virtually no cpu load have two spikes shortly ofter another, then about 30 seconds no spikes, then two spikes again etc...

cuppa · Post by **cuppa** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:43 pm

Hi, reinstalled, then used initsettings.exe, which I hadn't done before, and crackling seems to be gone, working fine now, no crackling...guys who have the crackling should maybe try this?

hmmm....

numerologia · Post by **numerologia** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:01 pm

The presets problem in Reaper is only in windows XP 32 Bits, even the previous version does that, maybe is a problem with the DAW...In windows 7 64bits everything works fine but the bug from EvilDragon.

It seems like Reaper has problems with the way it handles the plugin in Xp and windows 7.

I don't have any problem in other hosts with the same plugin.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:34 pm

numerologia wrote:It seems like Reaper has problems with the way it handles the plugin in Xp and windows 7.

No, this never happened with 32-bit version IIRC.

numerologia · Post by **numerologia** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:40 am

EvilDragon wrote:
numerologia wrote:It seems like Reaper has problems with the way it handles the plugin in Xp and windows 7.
No, this never happened with 32-bit version IIRC.

It´s very strange. I found at the Reaper's forum a couple of guys that had a similar problem and they fixed it by reinstalling Reaper, it seems that the problem is related to the configuration of the DAW.

I´ll have to save all my templates and fxchains to do a fresh installation.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:22 am

Yeah, that's not gonna happen over here, I have too much stuff I'd need to back up.

Synth1 Windows Ver1.13 beta1 (2014.6.12) - 64-bit!