KVR Audio

gckilla · Post by **gckilla** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:52 pm

I think this thread is more focused on user opinions - rather than the tit-for-tat that at least the one other thread results time and again. I'm hoping Peter actually doesn't show up here to distract from the main discussion.

I totally am in awe of Jordan's ability - but I do agree that going nuts on keys isn't the best way to highlight the product. Again - I don't think the library is the big deal - the old sounds were great, in my opinion.

I just wish you could do more.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:25 am

BBFG# wrote:
layzer wrote:ever since i got DimPro for $19 and Rapture for free, i've had no use for any other sample based instruments...flame on
Interesting, owning DimPro and constantly being disappointed in the samples available for it is one of the main reasons I finally broke down and bought ST2 and Garritan in the first place.

dispite your disappointment in it, it remains one of the most popular sample/wavetable based softsynths ever made.

yessongs · Post by **yessongs** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:47 am

I too have all the cakewalk synths but ST has a lot to offer that dim pro does not. The tron and orchestral stuff in Miro and S Tron are very cool and the ethnic stuff is fair I would rather get RA or Silk to do that sort of thing but for what I paid I got a steal considering I got the total studio bundle with amplitube for less than $100 and they gave me EZ drummer free with that purchase. Just picked up poly KB player for $8.74 at JRR with the code "group" that is a total no brainer considering it will play any preset created on that synth. My wish lists are more guitar oriented but ahead of ST3 on the list for keys is OPX player, VB3, Korg legacy Col. via 61 micro key controller, NI Komplete, Arturia keyboard controller, GForce Minimonsta, AAS modeling collection, Uhe Zebra and Diva, East West CCC and then maybe I upgrade to ST3. On the guitar side I am lusting for an Ibanez prestige a couple of powered 15" cabs, midi guitar software forget the name, Revalver 4, HD500, GP10 and of course the ultimate an AxeFX.

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:48 am

layzer wrote:
BBFG# wrote:
layzer wrote:ever since i got DimPro for $19 and Rapture for free, i've had no use for any other sample based instruments...flame on
Interesting, owning DimPro and constantly being disappointed in the samples available for it is one of the main reasons I finally broke down and bought ST2 and Garritan in the first place.
dispite your disappointment in it, it remains one of the most popular sample/wavetable based softsynths ever made.

Well considering it's yours for life once you buy it (or in my case, got it with Sonar) it certainly becomes ubiquitous. It should be one of the best, but sadly the samples available make it one of the worst. Not even in the same class as IK. Especially now that ST3 is near.

Orbit-50 · Post by **Orbit-50** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:45 am

Let's see. I've got Kontakt 5, Halion 5, Vengeance Phalanx Premium Version, Ableton Sampler, Image Line Direct Wave (which by the way is a hell of a lot cooler than I thought previously) and last but not least good ol' ancient Sampletank 2.5 which I don't even have installed. Uninstalled it a day or two after buying it. Always found it to have a bizarre workflow and crummy interface. Don't think I'll be upgrading.

.-.

mhog · Post by **mhog** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:49 am

I will upgrade, because I like it, ST3 is a very good product. Disappointed because I remember they promised a "very special treatment" for early users (the ones who bought it 10 years ago, boxed), but no news at all about that. And because of the bloody VAT, of course (20€). For the rest, this rompler has infinite possibilities, lots of fun playing with it: 16 multi parts, internal midi sequences, quasi-synth editing manipulation, very nice/professional multi effects, the stretch engine (works well when importing your own samples) and of course thousands of sounds, plus the various SR "xpansions" and samplemoog, sampletron, sonic synth, miroslav etc. we all bought thanks to the "bargain-no brainer-crazy 5 for 1" sales. Last but not least: the factory library is customizable. Besides I loke the simple C/R license protection system and the fact it should be rather CPU friendly.

C-note · Post by **C-note** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:03 am

Orbit-50 wrote:Let's see. I've got Kontakt 5, Halion 5, Vengeance Phalanx Premium Version, Ableton Sampler, Image Line Direct Wave (which by the way is a hell of a lot cooler than I thought previously) and last but not least good ol' ancient Sampletank 2.5 which I don't even have installed. Uninstalled it a day or two after buying it. Always found it to have a bizarre workflow and crummy interface. Don't think I'll be upgrading.

.-.

Same here - never like the workflow and the samples were just ok

Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:13 am

probably not. I've reached the point where I have nearly all the sounds I want. 5 years ago I would have bought it.

gamecat666 · Post by **gamecat666** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:31 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
gamecat666 wrote:nope. demos (even with Rudess) sounded a bit GM to me.
Rudess did just about everything that could be done to expose the flaws in a library like this. Why let a sound breathe when you can just throw everything you can at it ?? He made the basses sound totally cheesy with his runs, and that pitch bend on the muted trumpet ?? Dude might as well have scraped his nails down a blackboard

good point actually, it would be interesting to hear demos from others.

basslinemaster · Post by **basslinemaster** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:55 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Rudess did just about everything that could be done to expose the flaws in a library like this. Why let a sound breathe when you can just throw everything you can at it ?? He made the basses sound totally cheesy with his runs, and that pitch bend on the muted trumpet ?? Dude might as well have scraped his nails down a blackboard

I totally agree. While Rudess is obviously a very talented keyboard player, he does seem to often go overboard, and plays stuff so fast that you can't hear the full potential of the instrument. And as the OP says, ST2 already sounds very good indeed, and I still haven't heard anything in the Rudess demoes that made me want to buy ST3.

So I'll just be waiting for the free 64 bit player version... when hell freezes over, probably.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:39 am

You guys are indeed a curious bunch.

You've spent the last x many years asking when it will be released, with growing frustration.

Now that's it's imminent you're no longer interested.

Head scratching really...

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:43 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeYaHx-lkHE

Not impressed.

Even if I was using 64bit, I'd give it a miss.

No doubt IKMM will find a sneaky way of sneaking some sneaky advertisements into the GUI to encourage everyone to purchase expansions.

Nope. I'm not purchasing.

kbaccki · Post by **kbaccki** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:18 am

Mushy Mushy wrote:Now that's it's imminent you're no longer interested.

Yes, kinda like trying to capture the wife's attention at just the right moment for sex... "shoulda asked me yesterday, cuz I was really hot for some"... ST3 upgrades, that is...

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:25 am

kbaccki wrote:
Mushy Mushy wrote:Now that's it's imminent you're no longer interested.
Yes, kinda like trying to capture the wife's attention at just the right moment for sex... "shoulda asked me yesterday, cuz I was really hot for some"... ST3 upgrades, that is...

You're saying it's a case of too little too late then?

Great Galactic Ghoul · Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:42 am

Not gonna bother.

Sorry, but I find the ST3 audio demos underwhelming. This release would be more aptly named "Sampletank 2.9" because everything I heard sounds like what I already have in Total Workstation 2 -the only difference being some new effects I don't need. Couple that with already having all the bases I care about covered via Komplete, Superior Drummer and a gaggle of great freeware and skipping ST3 is a no-brainer for me.

YMMV.

Who is upgrading to ST 3 and why?