Official Serum thread!
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- KVRian
- 892 posts since 27 Oct, 2004 from Inside the kick drum
Earlier I said that I don't like Serum, because it sounds metallic and harsh. Now that I have owned Serum 4 months (got the Splice deal), I still think that Serum has harsh, metallic sound, which makes it unpleased to ears. Not talking about the reverb, just the synth itself. Plus Serum use tons of CPU. I made simple 5 note chord melody, made a supersaw patch and CPU meter is running on 100%. To me, the sound vs CPU ratio is bad, very bad.
However, I still like Serum in some sounds and I have been using it on my tracks. I definately keep using, I just wish Steve would do something about that harsh and metallic sound, and the insane CPU usage.
However, I still like Serum in some sounds and I have been using it on my tracks. I definately keep using, I just wish Steve would do something about that harsh and metallic sound, and the insane CPU usage.
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- KVRAF
- 1655 posts since 18 Feb, 2012
Yes, Serum is overrated. Sounds so thin, harsh and metallic...totally unuseable...but looks like people love that sound otherwise it wouldnt be so popular. Just check youtube...all kids use only cracked versions of Serum and Sylenth in cracked FL! You can clearly see 95% of time they dont know what they do and why they do it. And those are the people who write on forums and praise Serum to high heavens.
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that 95% of world are dumb kids and thievesHcDoom wrote:Yes, Serum is overrated. Sounds so thin, harsh and metallic...totally unuseable...but looks like people love that sound otherwise it wouldnt be so popular. Just check youtube...all kids use only cracked versions of Serum and Sylenth in cracked FL! You can clearly see 95% of time they dont know what they do and why they do it. And those are the people who write on forums and praise Serum to high heavens.
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
If you need big supersaws or smooth analog leads or some juicy filter sweeps, Serum is not the best option. Probably doable but with much more efforts than with other synths dedicated to these tasks. But I often need metallic/mechanical/unnatural tones in my music and I think Serum does it perfectly.
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- KVRian
- 1071 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
Serum gets a lot of use here. Crystal clear sounds when needed, filters could be a bit dirtier/gritty at times or at least have a few dirtier options, even with the drive the filter sometimes sounds a bit polite. Internal effects are usable which is saying something as often many synths are very poor in the built-in effects dept.
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- KVRAF
- 8414 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
Totally unuseable? Maybe for you, but that’s just your crazy opinion.HcDoom wrote:Yes, Serum is overrated. Sounds so thin, harsh and metallic...totally unuseable...but looks like people love that sound otherwise it wouldnt be so popular. Just check youtube...all kids use only cracked versions of Serum and Sylenth in cracked FL! You can clearly see 95% of time they dont know what they do and why they do it. And those are the people who write on forums and praise Serum to high heavens.
Lot’s of people are finding a use for this synth.
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- KVRian
- 698 posts since 17 Sep, 2014
It's strange, a supersaw, 7 voices, with a filter, 5 notes chord, my cpu meter is 5%.keel wrote:Earlier I said that I don't like Serum, because it sounds metallic and harsh. Now that I have owned Serum 4 months (got the Splice deal), I still think that Serum has harsh, metallic sound, which makes it unpleased to ears. Not talking about the reverb, just the synth itself. Plus Serum use tons of CPU. I made simple 5 note chord melody, made a supersaw patch and CPU meter is running on 100%. To me, the sound vs CPU ratio is bad, very bad.
However, I still like Serum in some sounds and I have been using it on my tracks. I definately keep using, I just wish Steve would do something about that harsh and metallic sound, and the insane CPU usage.
if i play a sine a tri or a saw, no metallic sound here, perhaps, it's the presets you selected who have this harsh things in the sound, sometimes, it's good to have some harsh in a mix.
- KVRAF
- 7352 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
The thing with Serum CPU use is, unison is literally running more oscillators. Turn on OSC 1 and 2 and set unison to 16 on both and you're running 32 oscillators. Five notes with that setting is running 512 oscillators. Rein it in a little
Supersaw is usually done with a single oscillator (or two, for stereo) with a more complex wave, not with unison. You can create a supersaw wavetable easily enough in Serum -- set crazy unison, and pick "Resample to A+B (Stereo)" under the menu. Kill the unison, make sure A+B are panned and modulate the table positions (preferably with separate LFOs) and you're good. I think it sounds better than the unprocessed unison in some ways
Supersaw is usually done with a single oscillator (or two, for stereo) with a more complex wave, not with unison. You can create a supersaw wavetable easily enough in Serum -- set crazy unison, and pick "Resample to A+B (Stereo)" under the menu. Kill the unison, make sure A+B are panned and modulate the table positions (preferably with separate LFOs) and you're good. I think it sounds better than the unprocessed unison in some ways
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Yeah, Serum is so crappy that it's my best selling library. Why would kids who use cracked versions of a synth spend any money on a library?HcDoom wrote:Yes, Serum is overrated. Sounds so thin, harsh and metallic...totally unuseable...but looks like people love that sound otherwise it wouldnt be so popular. Just check youtube...all kids use only cracked versions of Serum and Sylenth in cracked FL! You can clearly see 95% of time they dont know what they do and why they do it. And those are the people who write on forums and praise Serum to high heavens.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
Ummm...no.HcDoom wrote:Yes, Serum is overrated. Sounds so thin, harsh and metallic...totally unuseable...but looks like people love that sound otherwise it wouldnt be so popular. Just check youtube...all kids use only cracked versions of Serum and Sylenth in cracked FL! You can clearly see 95% of time they dont know what they do and why they do it. And those are the people who write on forums and praise Serum to high heavens.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
That's usually the way it is. At least when I do something that sucks, I don't blame the synth. I put the blame squarely where it belongs.egbert101 wrote:Workman blaming their tools.
- KVRAF
- 2491 posts since 3 Dec, 2006
What in your opinion is the best Synth for wide juicy supersaws?recursive one wrote:If you need big supersaws or smooth analog leads or some juicy filter sweeps, Serum is not the best option. Probably doable but with much more efforts than with other synths dedicated to these tasks. But I often need metallic/mechanical/unnatural tones in my music and I think Serum does it perfectly.
- KVRAF
- 5943 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Weird. I post a 10 min track that uses only Serum (except for the bass) and frankly uses it very well and this spawns a thread about how bad Serum is.
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