IK Multimedia announced Miroslav Philharmonik 2

[MillerSam]

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/philharmonik2/

[MachineClaw]

$199 upgrade? I'll pass.

put the $199 into my Vienna Instruments seems more beneficial to me.

plus this is IK. the price will be $50 in a year in a group buy.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

...the price will be $50 in a year in a group buy.

You'll be waiting a long time for that, this is a $499 product at full price, and the upgrade path (not to mention the bonus for long-time users making it even better) is more than reasonable for many. Sorry to see you not on board, maybe next time.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Here's the full news/info (definitely check out the audio demos too, this sounds great):
Announcing Miroslav Philharmonik 2

The new orchestra with legendary soul is now available for preorder



Miroslav Philharmonik™ 2 is the next-generation of the most emotionally expressive orchestral collection for Mac/PC. Made in conjunction with master musician and jazz legend Miroslav Vitous, it comes with over 1,000 new sounds that include soaring strings, animated woodwinds and majestic brass in both solo and ensemble forms. In total, it offers a remarkable 55GB+ content library with over 2,500 instruments sampled in stunning high-resolution audio with multiple articulations plus over 30 professional quality effects, 3 powerful playback engines, a synthesizer section, a built-in mixer and a whole lot more. Miroslav Philharmonik 2 is fully compatible with IK’s SampleTank 3 sound and groove workstation and can be used as a standalone orchestral composition powerhouse, or as a an additional add-on instrument library in SampleTank 3.

Simply beautiful sound

Miroslav Philharmonik 2 builds on the core library of its predecessor with over 1,000 new instruments recorded in the ensemble strings, solo strings, ensemble brass, solo brass, ensemble woodwinds and solo woodwind categories. Its sounds have been meticulously voiced and edited by hand with the same sampling techniques that made the original Miroslav Philharmonik one of the most popular and emotionally expressive orchestral workstations of all time.

Listen to Audio Demos.

Each of these new sounds has been recorded at the Czech National Symphony Orchestra, a space that's been used by such legendary figures as Andrea Bocelli, Ennio Morricone, Lalo Schifrin and, of course, Miroslav Vitous himself.


Ecstasy. Passion. Joy.

Miroslav Philharmonik 2's instruments and sounds are able to convey the emotion and humanity of the musician behind each note. This makes it a perfect choice for when a more delicate or expressive touch is required: Like when scoring tragic love stories, recording romantic R&B ballads or adding symphonic grandeur to gothic metal anthems.

Every new sound includes its own articulations that can be accessed either via a convenient key switching system that lets musicians instantly play flowing legatos, animated pizzicatos, aggressive spiccatos, elegant staccatos, triumphant fortissimos and more. All articulations are also available as individual instruments.

In addition to the new sounds, Miroslav Philharmonik 2 also comes with an updated library of instruments from the original Miroslav Philharmonik. These classic instruments have been enhanced to take advantage of the new SampleTank 3 technology powering Miroslav Philharmonik 2. This provides more possibilities for sonic sculpting than ever before: All instruments now come with 8 macro controls (as opposed to 4) that control features like a 3-band EQ, a filter cutoff and envelope parameters like attack and release that are perfect for on-the-fly adjustments.

Powerful processing

Miroslav Philharmonik 2 includes over 30 professional-grade studio plug-in effects from IK Multimedia's acclaimed SampleTank 3 sound and groove workstation. These effects encompass the full range of the sonic spectrum and include equalizers, dynamic processors, filters, modulation effects, reverbs, delays and more. It also includes 4 of the best analog-modeled mastering effects from IK's acclaimed T-RackS mixing and mastering suite for complete, in-the-box mixing.

Beyond these effects, Miroslav Philharmonik 2 also comes with an updated ConvoRoom convolution reverb unit that now sports a new virtual room that displays the physical space acoustically represented.

With such a collection of effects, musicians can create professional, broadcast-quality productions straight inside Miroslav Philharmonik 2 itself with no additional processing required!

Play. Mix. Edit: Advanced control

Miroslav Philharmonik 2 uses the same Play, Mix and Edit pages as SampleTank 3. These pages give musicians an extreme amount of intuitive creative control over Miroslav Philharmonik 2's orchestral sounds. It comes with an easy-to-use instrument browser, a 16-part DAW-style mixer with per-channel effect slots and global send/return and a powerful synthesizer section with 3 sample playback engines and 10 high-quality filters. With the synthesizer, musicians can quickly and easily transform a simple trumpet into a massive synth lead or a mighty brass ensemble into a dreamy pad - Miroslav Philharmonik 2 literally lets composers explore the furthest reaches of their creative minds.

Seamless integration

Miroslav Philharmonik 2 is based on SampleTank 3 technology. This means that it can be used on its own as a standalone instrument or as an additional library inside of the SampleTank 3 sound and groove workstation.

Pricing and availability

Miroslav Philharmonik 2 will be available in December, 2015. Miroslav Philharmonik 2 can be purchased as a direct digital download from the IK store or select music retailers worldwide, or as a boxed version with a USB flash drive. It is currently available for pre-orderat special, limited-time introductory pricing via the IK online store and from select music retailers in a number of different options:

Current owners of Miroslav Philharmonik can preorder the upgrade for as low as $/€199.99* for direct download or $/€229.99 for a boxed copy.

Users with qualifying IK software can get preorder crossgrade pricing for as low as $/€299.99 for a direct download or $/€329.99 for a boxed copy.

New users can preorder Miroslav Philharmonik 2 for as low as $/€399.99 for a direct download or $/€429.99 for a boxed copy. Miroslav Philharmonik 2 will have a retail price of $499.99 ($529.99 for the boxed version). Upgrade and crossgrade pricing will also be available.

*all prices excluding taxes

[MachineClaw]

...the price will be $50 in a year in a group buy.

You'll be waiting a long time for that, this is a $499 product at full price, and the upgrade path (not to mention the bonus for long-time users making it even better) is more than reasonable for many. Sorry to see you not on board, maybe next time.

the past IK marketing machine seems to disagree with this. but okay it's a new product, your right who knows when it will be discounted.

should really be nice if the product material included what has been upgrade instead of alluding to new samples but not outlining it. I just kept reading SmapleTank 3 effects and T-Rack and included samples from Miroslav ver 1.

so what is NEW? how about a comparison of V1- V2.

sorry new sticker on an old frog don't make it a new prince. to me. just saying. I have Miro and used it until I need more and then I went and bought more professional products.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

It isn't at all a new sticker on an old frog. 45GB new samples, and there's a Sounds tab that explains what's in there and seems pretty clear to me. Please visit the site and I'm sure you can get the answers you are looking for (and Miro is definitely a professional product, sorry that you don't like it and you are entitled to your opinion but no need to slag it because you feel the upgrade is too pricey for your tastes and you haven't reviewed the information about it based on the misunderstanding shown in your last post). http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/philharmonik2/

Edit - for example, you can see this on the Sounds tab ("new instruments" seems clear to me, please let me know if this is not easily understood?):

New Instruments

Below is a list of the new instruments in Miroslav Philharmonik 2 organized by instrument type and articulation. The number in parenthesis is the amount of variations for each instrument articulation. The variations include performances at different dynamic levels, different lengths, different intensities and even different scales for recorded lines.

Reading is indeed fundamental to understanding a complex product. I know you're not interested but if you do become interested at all I'd recommend actually reading about the product before taking potshots.

[Burillo]

does it contain any old sounds?

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

does it contain any old sounds?

Yes, there's 45GB of new material plus the original material is also all included in addition to that.

[murnau]

I bought the upgrade to Albion ONE for less recently, seems like a good decision.

[bharris22]

Is there a deadline for the upgrade price?

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Is there a deadline for the upgrade price?

Preorder pricing will be done once Miroslav Philharmonik 2 is released. We will have more information about the precise date in December as we approach release.

[BBFG#]

Demo version available?
Or should I simply just write it off as another one of the 64 bit IK plugins that should work like the nine IK effects that do on my system, but instead crashes like the rest?

[elxsound]

I bought the upgrade to Albion ONE for less recently, seems like a good decision.

Yeah my thinking... speaking comparatively to other products, I don't find the pricing appealing.

Oh well. My T-Racks have all been replaced and well... I guess the rest of the SampleTank stuff have been too.

[SirKen]

It isn't at all a new sticker on an old frog. 45GB new samples, and there's a Sounds tab that explains what's in there and seems pretty clear to me. Please visit the site and I'm sure you can get the answers you are looking for (and Miro is definitely a professional product, sorry that you don't like it and you are entitled to your opinion but no need to slag it because you feel the upgrade is too pricey for your tastes and you haven't reviewed the information about it based on the misunderstanding shown in your last post). http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/philharmonik2/

Edit - for example, you can see this on the Sounds tab ("new instruments" seems clear to me, please let me know if this is not easily understood?):

New Instruments

Below is a list of the new instruments in Miroslav Philharmonik 2 organized by instrument type and articulation. The number in parenthesis is the amount of variations for each instrument articulation. The variations include performances at different dynamic levels, different lengths, different intensities and even different scales for recorded lines.

Reading is indeed fundamental to understanding a complex product. I know you're not interested but if you do become interested at all I'd recommend actually reading about the product before taking potshots.

I think people are being unnecessarily harsh here.

That being said, I would love to have some more information. Can we hear a V1 vs V2 comparison for similar patches? Also, are the new samples recorded wet like the older ones?

Would it be possible to see a walkthrough of individual patches on Youtube? (Soundcloud compression is atrocious.)

[murnau]

Anyway, it would be interesting to know if those "new recordings" are leftovers from the past or really Miro was resurrected again for new recording sessions? I hardly believe the 2nd. Nowdays with all the social media etc. a few videos about the recording sessions and detailed background info's are essential.