One Synth Challenge #90: Helm by Matt Tytel (Jasinski Wins!)

[sawsq]

Am I doing it wrong, or is polyphony bugged? Simultaniously playing two different notes with two VST instances sounds as expected, but the two notes playing with just one instance sounds distorted. The sound is just a plain sine, no modulations whatsoever, polyphony voices set to two. (Helm 0.8.6, Bitwig 1.3.12, Windows 10)

[z.prime]

Sorry, not having that problem. Have you changed any settings? Maybe you should turn the OSC 1/2 down on the mixer? The saturation knob seems to be a sort of distortion that clips the output somewhat, you could probably adjust that or the OSC levels.

[sawsq]

Sorry, not having that problem. Have you changed any settings? Maybe you should turn the OSC 1/2 down on the mixer? The saturation knob seems to be a sort of distortion that clips the output somewhat, you could probably adjust that or the OSC levels.

Hm, I have Osc2, Sub & Noise all down, Cross Mod set to 0, no unison, any FX and modulations off. Seems tweaking saturation (set to 0dB) is the only option I'd have, but this doesn't really help, except turning it to -60dB, then it's all fine...

Well, gonna try in Renoise and Reaper, maybe there's a difference for me. Thx!

Edit: Nope, same thing.

[bh9090]

My glitchy funk entry

https://soundcloud.com/hennessey/bh9090 ... r-osc-helm

- Ableton Live 9
- 36 instances of HELM.
- All sounds from scratch, no presets used.
- DAW effects Compressor, EQ8, Simple Delay, Reverb, Limiter, Saturator, Overdrive
- 3rd Party effects: Molot, Limiter 6, Tal Reverb 4, Loudmax, TDR Nova, Liftikus

[Hanz Meyzer]

IMHO I find it quite difficult to work with this synth, due

- On 5 of 6 reloads of the song, some presets sound distorted, but they should not

- Copy paste an instance onto another instance will crash DAW (I do it to backup last settings, since the synth does not fully writes all parameters to daw undo buffer)

So I will never know if the song will now sound correct. Can you help me with this problem? Any workaround or new version?

[Hanz Meyzer]

Am I doing it wrong, or is polyphony bugged? Simultaniously playing two different notes with two VST instances sounds as expected, but the two notes playing with just one instance sounds distorted. The sound is just a plain sine, no modulations whatsoever, polyphony voices set to two. (Helm 0.8.6, Bitwig 1.3.12, Windows 10)

Similar problem here, on OSX Renoise. Maybe try reload the project, helps here.

[bjporter]

My glitchy funk entry

https://soundcloud.com/hennessey/bh9090 ... r-osc-helm

- Ableton Live 9
- 36 instances of HELM.
- All sounds from scratch, no presets used.
- DAW effects Compressor, EQ8, Simple Delay, Reverb, Limiter, Saturator, Overdrive
- 3rd Party effects: Molot, Limiter 6, Tal Reverb 4, Loudmax, TDR Nova, Liftikus

I don't know why, but the sound quality in this tune sounds absolutely phenomenal... like i'm listening to a real analog synth. Am I crazy? Probably.

[bh9090]

My glitchy funk entry

https://soundcloud.com/hennessey/bh9090 ... r-osc-helm

- Ableton Live 9
- 36 instances of HELM.
- All sounds from scratch, no presets used.
- DAW effects Compressor, EQ8, Simple Delay, Reverb, Limiter, Saturator, Overdrive
- 3rd Party effects: Molot, Limiter 6, Tal Reverb 4, Loudmax, TDR Nova, Liftikus

I don't know why, but the sound quality in this tune sounds absolutely phenomenal... like i'm listening to a real analog synth. Am I crazy? Probably.

Oh, you crazy Mr. Porter. I think that's just the sound of overbaked compression and EQ

Thanks, though. I wasn't even that crazy about Helm's Filters.

[Eauson]

My shady entry for this months OSC

https://soundcloud.com/eauson/eauson-ma ... -challenge

KVR Helm

11* Matt Tytel HELM v 0.6.0
Nova 67p * 2
MSED
Rubberfilter *
George Yohngs W1 limiter * 3
Block fish

Ferric TDS
Ambience reverb
SonEQ
TDR Kotelnikov
RS-met Multianalyzer
UV22hr

[sfiks]

Here is my entry with 30 instances of Helm for Mac in Reaper.
External plugin - LoudMax.
https://soundcloud.com/slava-fiks/3-photos

[z.prime]

Here is *not* my entry... but perhaps Helmet Kohl's entry: https://soundcloud.com/z_prime/helmet-kohl-snippet

[rghvdberg]

Here is *not* my entry... but perhaps Helmet Kohl's entry: https://soundcloud.com/z_prime/helmet-kohl-snippet

Woohoo, supertoll!

one advice

[jasinski]

I think Helm just defeated me.

Almost done with my track. 60+ instances of the stinking synth. Does it constantly crash Live? Glitch out my Focusrite Scarlett? Synth patches sound different every time I open the project? No worries. I struggle on. Ain't going to let that stop me.. Then finally, an epic crash that somehow turns off my entire Core Audio (the audio kernel on mac). Reopening the project I find half my patches have been completely nuked. All modulation routing undone, Helm mixers set to 0.

I'm too discouraged to redo it all. It was a lot of work... So I think I'm out this month. Shame too because I had vocal tracks and everything.

[z.prime]

I think Helm just defeated me.

Almost done with my track. 60+ instances of the stinking synth. Does it constantly crash Live? Glitch out my Focusrite Scarlett? Synth patches sound different every time I open the project? No worries. I struggle on. Ain't going to let that stop me.. Then finally, an epic crash that somehow turns off my entire Core Audio (the audio kernel on mac). Reopening the project I find half my patches have been completely nuked. All modulation routing undone, Helm mixers set to 0.

I'm too discouraged to redo it all. It was a lot of work... So I think I'm out this month. Shame too because I had vocal tracks and everything.

OMGGGG NOOO! I was soo looking forward to this. Frikkin' vocal tracks, especially :'(

[Guenon]

I'm too discouraged to redo it all. It was a lot of work... So I think I'm out this month. Shame too because I had vocal tracks and everything.

Augh that sucks big time ... I can imagine how that must feel. Hang in there - and thank you for the important warning that Helm can explode in this manner.