adamtrance wrote:Ingonator wrote:I had owned both a Virus KC (2004-2007) and a Virus TI Mk1 desktop (2006-2015) and i admit that the only feature i am still interested in from teh TI is the Hypersaw.
I think I read multiple times that you are a fan of the Hypersaw in the Virus Ti, and you always mention Icarus. While it does a cool Hypersaw its nothing like the one in the Virus Ti or in Viper. First of all, the real OG Hypersaw in the Virus lets you dynamically dial in the amount of voices. So you can have a single osc Hypersaw, and smoothly dial in more all the way up to 9. In Icarus, you can only choose from Hypersaw 3, 5, 7 and 9. You cannot blend between them. Also the detune in Icarus does not go as far as the Virus Hypersaw. Then, another feature in the Hypersaw is that when you enable the Sub oscillator, you get Hypersquares blended in with the Hypersaws for a very massive sound. Icarus does not that either. So as far as I am aware Viper is the only one that nails all of these right now.
I really thought about buying Viper but then i remembered that there were reasons why i had sold both the Virus KC and Virus TI. Besides that for Hypersaw i alraedy got options that are good enough for me.
Having the choice for 3,5,7 and 9 Hypersaws is is enough for my taste. As in Icarus you could use this with all 3 OScs and it works with all waveforms (not just Saw) you could also do Hypersquare and a lot of other "Hyper" stuff. More or less it's also similar with the "Density" feature in UltraNova while the maximum is 5 detuned waveforms (but with all 3 Oscs so you could get 15 of them).
What i miss in Virus TI and also Viper is a Stereo Hypersaw like that in Icarus.
FWIW i did not mention that Icarus is a full blown Virus TI emulation but for my own Hypersaw and mostly also Supersaw needs (with the proper single cycle waveform used) it is currently more than enough.
With the latest version Icarus now also supports FM between the 3 main Oscs (and not just with using anothe fixed "virtual" oscillator for FM).
I had checked Tone2 Electra 2.1 against my Virus TI before i sold the TI and Electra really nailed it for me. Opposing to Icarus in Electra this feature is limited to a Sawtooth. Electra also has a dedicated "Hypersquare" mode with 9 detuned Squares.
Anyway for Supersaw i also got JP6K (since 2012) and now also have jBridge to use it in Live 9 64-bit.