BlackWinny wrote:Yes, the presence of Neil Diamond within my list was simply a mistake. Here in Franceglokraw wrote:Yes, he has a lot of tunes out there, but none of the 'hits'ghettosynth wrote: I wouldn't call Neil Diamond ambient.
would I associate with ambience. I saw a Diamond concert once,
Cheers
What are some good plugins for creating ambient music?
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Actually, Neil Diamond did an album in 1973 titled Jonathan Livingston Seagull that had some ambient like music on it.
Not that I would classify Neil Diamond as an ambient artist.
Just sayin.
Not that I would classify Neil Diamond as an ambient artist.
Just sayin.
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Right, that's what I was referring to when I used the phrase "his most ambient moments." It's instrumental in parts, it's definitely chill, but, I wouldn't really call it ambient.wagtunes wrote:Actually, Neil Diamond did an album in 1973 titled Jonathan Livingston Seagull that had some ambient like music on it.
Not that I would classify Neil Diamond as an ambient artist.
Just sayin.
- KVRist
- 69 posts since 20 Nov, 2016
Seconding both parts of this. Omnisphere is amazing for unique sounds and effects that fit very naturally with ambient. Innerspace is an included effect that anyone taking this route absolutely needs to know their way around.wagtunes wrote:Right out of the box with absolutely no tweaking.
Omnisphere
ABSynth 5
Wavemapper 2
But almost any synth with few exceptions can be used for ambient music. Get Valhalla reverbs and delays and use generously.
But reverbs and delays are more important than the actual synths. I've even made a cool ambient sound by playing one of Serum's "hard bass" presets a couple octaves up and drowning it in Valhalla Shimmer.
- KVRAF
- 2231 posts since 23 May, 2005 from West Country, UK
OMG you’re in trouble now. Back to page 1 of the thread for you my son.RamblinWreck wrote: But reverbs and delays are more important than the actual synths. I've even made a cool ambient sound by playing one of Serum's "hard bass" presets a couple octaves up and drowning it in Valhalla Shimmer.
Only joking
- KVRAF
- 2231 posts since 23 May, 2005 from West Country, UK
This video is not available. The anticipation was overwhelming me tooghettosynth wrote:I have this on vinyl, it's always popular. No, it's not really ambient, it's downtempo house and/or techno depending on which track on the double EP that you're playing.lnikj wrote:What about dolphin clicks and whale calls? We haven't done that one yet.
But, there we have it, I think? How you use the sound does matter for ambient. I wouldn't necessarily call pure dolphin click recordings ambient in every context, but it is probably always an environmental recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4WkMEyXBEI
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WHwEr8Z83Alnikj wrote:This video is not available. The anticipation was overwhelming me tooghettosynth wrote:I have this on vinyl, it's always popular. No, it's not really ambient, it's downtempo house and/or techno depending on which track on the double EP that you're playing.lnikj wrote:What about dolphin clicks and whale calls? We haven't done that one yet.
But, there we have it, I think? How you use the sound does matter for ambient. I wouldn't necessarily call pure dolphin click recordings ambient in every context, but it is probably always an environmental recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4WkMEyXBEI
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- KVRAF
- 5818 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
The point is that they actually aren't widely filed under ambient, your list is mostly composed of jazzists, prog rockers, berlin school stallwarts, dance/electronica producers, traditional and world musicians and easy listening/new age types. And even if they were filed under ambient, it would be just a simple case of mislabeling artists who don't easily fit into any popular genre.BlackWinny wrote:I listed them because they are widely filed under Ambient (when it's not frankly under "New Age"), yes yes yes. Don't pretend that I was off-topic, please ! It would be a pure lie. I by the way repeat that the classification of "Ambient" and its pendent "New Age" are categories used as "fourre-tout" for many stores as soon as an album is close to that extremely vague classification given that there is no real definition of it.
Now I'm not saying these, or basically any other artists listed as something else than ambient didn't have tracks that would fit in an ambient set- things aren't that black and white. However, there are tons of artists who see themselves as ambient artists, are filed under that genre and coincientally produce music that really could never be mistaken for anything else than actual ambient. Ambient does exist as a categorisation, it's not just a dump category for everything weird.
Anyway, my warmest thanks for your list- many completely new names to me and I've been exploring their wonderful music this evening something that is way more valuable than discussing genre semantics!
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- KVRAF
- 5818 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
But we will do it nowlnikj wrote:What about dolphin clicks and whale calls? We haven't done that one yet.
Madrona Labs Aalto would be my recommended plugin for dolphin clicks and whale calls:
https://soundcloud.com/noiseconstruct/io_pfk1
It does an awful lot of other useful stuff for ambient (such as all kinds of birds! Don't forget the birdsong.), which is probably not suprising as it's one of the very best VSTis ever created.
- KVRAF
- 2231 posts since 23 May, 2005 from West Country, UK
Is her 'dolphin' a metaphor, or is that just my mind?ghettosynth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WHwEr8Z83A
- KVRAF
- 2231 posts since 23 May, 2005 from West Country, UK
That's really rather good.jon wrote:But we will do it nowlnikj wrote:What about dolphin clicks and whale calls? We haven't done that one yet.
Madrona Labs Aalto would be my recommended plugin for dolphin clicks and whale calls:
https://soundcloud.com/noiseconstruct/io_pfk1
It does an awful lot of other useful stuff for ambient (such as all kinds of birds! Don't forget the birdsong.), which is probably not suprising as it's one of the very best VSTis ever created.
Yes, Aalto is great !
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- KVRist
- 455 posts since 16 May, 2012 from Antwerp
I also love Aalto and consider it one of my best purchases ever.
I used to automatically open Chromaphone, but now it has been replaced by Aalto.
Having read what you do and knowing a little about who you are (thanks for that) I am not shure synths can give you everything you want. I mean: recording your own music played on the instruments you have mastered and then using effects and sampling them might bring more harmony to the whole.
For as far as synths are concerned: Aalto and Absynth, yes. Absynth is so vast that it takes a while to be able to go in the direction of the sound you want.
Another one would be Iris 2, but it does have a few bugs that will probably never be repaired. Not dramatic ones that make it unusable, but they are there.
Then thereare the effects. This could become a deep discussion.
BTW: Claude Debussy is often called an Impressionist, but he was often more a Symbolist. He began with Rosetti's Blessed Damozel, which is Pre-Raphaelite. Definitions can be ok for a catalogue, but in life, everything has a burr that goes beyond the limitations of the terminology.
I used to automatically open Chromaphone, but now it has been replaced by Aalto.
Having read what you do and knowing a little about who you are (thanks for that) I am not shure synths can give you everything you want. I mean: recording your own music played on the instruments you have mastered and then using effects and sampling them might bring more harmony to the whole.
For as far as synths are concerned: Aalto and Absynth, yes. Absynth is so vast that it takes a while to be able to go in the direction of the sound you want.
Another one would be Iris 2, but it does have a few bugs that will probably never be repaired. Not dramatic ones that make it unusable, but they are there.
Then thereare the effects. This could become a deep discussion.
BTW: Claude Debussy is often called an Impressionist, but he was often more a Symbolist. He began with Rosetti's Blessed Damozel, which is Pre-Raphaelite. Definitions can be ok for a catalogue, but in life, everything has a burr that goes beyond the limitations of the terminology.
Windows 7, Cubase 9.5 and some extra plug-ins | Takamine EN-10C and PRS Mira
- KVRist
- 69 posts since 20 Nov, 2016
Nooooo, don't make me read through it again!lnikj wrote:OMG you’re in trouble now. Back to page 1 of the thread for you my son.RamblinWreck wrote: But reverbs and delays are more important than the actual synths. I've even made a cool ambient sound by playing one of Serum's "hard bass" presets a couple octaves up and drowning it in Valhalla Shimmer.
Only joking
I just read through it all; I had no idea that such relaxing music could be so contentious!
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
It's from the late 90s, so, it's probably intentionally vague in that sense.lnikj wrote:Is her 'dolphin' a metaphor, or is that just my mind?ghettosynth wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WHwEr8Z83A