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adydub
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485 posts since 23 Jan, 2004, from Oxford, England

Postby adydub; Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:16 am Physical modelling in 2017

For me Pianoteq is something of a benchmark in terms of sound and sophistication for physical modelling based instruments. I regularly use the AAS derived physical modelling instruments in Live, but they are a long way from the cutting edge and sound pretty crude compared to Pianoteq.

I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?
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Michael L
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2343 posts since 25 Jan, 2014, from the End of the World as we Knowit

Postby Michael L; Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:48 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Modelonia is great, but needs finesse and a nice convolution reverb:
http://www.nusofting.liqihsynth.com/modelonia.html
Also this hybrid with lots of control:
http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/swam_saxophones.php
And this is sort of vocal modeling:
http://wolfgangpalm.com/phonem.html
Cinebient
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Postby Cinebient; Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:10 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

I still find Sculpture the best from all in general.
But of course there are better ones for some specific areas like Pianoteq, Chromaphone etc.
However i did never find any tool which could change timbres in such an "organic" and interesting way in realtime like Sculpture.
My second fav is Reaktor Prism, then Chromaphone, then maybe Pianoteq which is of course the best for piano and similar key sounds but still could not replace a thing like Keyscapes for me.
Some other interesting things are the Finger Fiddle app for iOS which has a great GUI and a good engine to emulate strings (violin, viola, cello, double bass).
I also really like the Reaktor ensemble Serenade 3 which is similar to Finger Fiddle (the GUI is not as good but with automations it can create awesome things).
In general i really miss the next thing in terms of physical modeling. I´m still waiting for a kind of Sculpture 2.
woggle
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Postby woggle; Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:13 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

adydub wrote:
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?


Kaivo is great
jeffb01
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Postby jeffb01; Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:51 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.
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Postby Armagibbon; Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:53 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

jeffb01 wrote:Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.

Came here to post this.
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wagtunes
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Postby wagtunes; Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:07 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

jeffb01 wrote:Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.


Yeah, MODO Bass really does rock. It's the only non synth bass I use anymore.
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Vortifex
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Postby Vortifex; Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:16 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

MODO Bass sounds good but damn it's expensive for a plugin.
adydub
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Postby adydub; Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:02 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Krakatau wrote:check this out, for instance :

https://physicalaudio.co.uk/PA3.html


This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for, thank you!
tatanka
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Postby tatanka; Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:37 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for, thank you!


Mac only :cry: :cry: this one sounds really great, what a pity.....
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masterhiggins
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Postby masterhiggins; Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:45 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

woggle wrote:
adydub wrote:
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?


Kaivo is great


Kaivo is incredible, but some patches will kick your system's ass. I have a quad 2.8 i7 and sometimes it maxes out an entire core.
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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Postby el-bo (formerly ebow); Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:47 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Cinebient wrote:I also really like the Reaktor ensemble Serenade 3 which is similar to Finger Fiddle (the GUI is not as good but with automations it can create awesome things)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLkPvmr93K8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2CMq-zIua4
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Dasheesh
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Postby Dasheesh; Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:50 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

So let me get this right, you get this AND Alchemy in Logic? All you are missing is true algorithmic analog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rIcWE6Nhns
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Postby Dasheesh; Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:52 am Re: Physical modelling in 2017

If I had Logic I would get Largo and DIVA and call it a day. You done.
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