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2273 posts since 23 Oct, 2000, from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk

Postby kevvvvv; Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:17 pm Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

Been enjoying the strong convictions this thread :)

Personally I don't mind presets at all as I'm more of a tunesmith than a sound designer.

I hardly use loops, unless they're baked-in as part of the production process - like Signal or BFD.

And if I'm honest, I'm a fairly crap sound designer, as I never know when to stop fiddling about until the whole thing's ruined or too doomy.

I admire people who can do it really well. It takes a special quality of ear.

But on the other hand, if you can whistle it, I'll dream up a half-decent counter melody real quick.

So presets and high speed workflow matter a lot to me.

Plus I "believe in" software that works at the speed of thought (and hopefully at a great price 8) )

Any more Kontakt gizmo suggestions very welcome. Please share.
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mgw38
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886 posts since 26 Jul, 2015, from Philadelphia

Postby mgw38; Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:23 pm Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

kevvvvv wrote:And if I'm honest, I'm a fairly crap sound designer, as I never know when to stop fiddling about until the whole thing's ruined or too doomy.


It is almost scary how much I can relate to that statement. Tunesmiths unite! :lol:
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Postby wagtunes; Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:54 am Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

mgw38 wrote:
kevvvvv wrote:And if I'm honest, I'm a fairly crap sound designer, as I never know when to stop fiddling about until the whole thing's ruined or too doomy.


It is almost scary how much I can relate to that statement. Tunesmiths unite! :lol:


It's actually possible to do both. I've been writing songs and programming synths for over 40 years. It takes a lot of dedication and long hours.
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mgw38
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Postby mgw38; Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:10 am Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

wagtunes wrote:
mgw38 wrote:
kevvvvv wrote:And if I'm honest, I'm a fairly crap sound designer, as I never know when to stop fiddling about until the whole thing's ruined or too doomy.


It is almost scary how much I can relate to that statement. Tunesmiths unite! :lol:


It's actually possible to do both. I've been writing songs and programming synths for over 40 years. It takes a lot of dedication and long hours.


Well, I have been making music for a little under three years now. They say you become an expert after about 10,000 hours of practice. At the moment I would guess that I am 30% in. So, let's have this conversation again in about 7 years. :)
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Postby David; Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:50 am Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

kevvvvv wrote:

Any more Kontakt gizmo suggestions very welcome. Please share.


I'd suggest you check these out, they all have detailed videos:

http://www.audiofier.com/randomisers-series-1-2/

I've been really enjoying Abstrung since it's all plucked and hammered strings, my fav:) New versions just out with vast sample collections including mallets and bowed sounds and tons of pulse-y sequencing options, randomizers all over the place… These can go into both full melodic and atonal rhythmic directions.

https://8dio.com/instrument-category/bl ... nt-series/

Esp. the two on sale now for $90, Alive Perc and Hybrid Pulses. The demos all sound similar, but you can push the engines into a really wide range of feels

I'm in the "get Gatekeeper and pulse your own sounds" camp personally, but that works really well with pulse libraries,too.
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Postby rod_zero; Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:13 pm Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

Anyone has substance?

How good and diverse are the non synth sounds? That side seems interesting, same for the last string instrument.
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mgw38
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886 posts since 26 Jul, 2015, from Philadelphia

Postby mgw38; Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:01 pm Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

Second the 8Dio Blendstrument suggestion. Truly outstanding instruments.
Astralv
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Postby Astralv; Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:27 pm Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

Blendstrument... they are very innovative, but... I think they require sound design skills. I noted that the demos sound great but when using it, it is hard to get good sound. Especially the drum version- I can not get in to random drums sounds without actual rhythm or order. But then again. My music is specific, not abstract. (Funny, I just got nominated for local music award in Experimental category)- I guess using all these weird instruments is experimenting in some way.
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Postby kevvvvv; Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:16 am Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

Astralv

(Funny, I just got nominated for local music award in Experimental category)


Congrats :)
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David
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Postby David; Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:27 am Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

…just tumbled onto this delicious thing:
https://www.stringaudio.com/kontakt/alc ... c_textures
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Postby kevvvvv; Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:47 am Re: is there anything else like Output's Signal pulse engine

David

…just tumbled onto this delicious thing:
https://www.stringaudio.com/kontakt/alc ... c_textures


certainly good for drones and beds, and not bad price either.
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