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Caine123
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5216 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Postby Caine123; Mon May 21, 2018 10:56 am Re: SONiVOX Stratum

Caine123 wrote:Dont buy their shit . This is a f++××÷ company. No support i mesaaged them on facebook and emails 3 times. No reply. F%%% them


Everyone who wonders about their reputation.
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ghettosynth
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11019 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Postby ghettosynth; Mon May 21, 2018 11:36 am Re: SONiVOX Stratum

Gamma-UT wrote:
menthol wrote:I can honestly say I've never before seen such venom directed at a company in this forum. (And that's saying a lot.) :o


As a sample library supplier (Sonic Implants), Sonivox does OK. Their software leaves a lot to be desired. It's had, ahem, a bit of an effect on their reputation.


This! It's almost weird enough that I'd love to know the story. Did they get some intern to work for free over every summer to code each plugin or something? In general the quality is bad, but, there's some variation. I think that they must recognize this though as this is the first plugin from then, AFAIK, to use the struQture engine, which, AFAIK, is not them.

https://www.qubiqaudio.com/

The reverb NOS Roomer also uses this engine, I have no idea what's involved with the "engine", but it appears to be similar to synthedit or perhaps Halion in some sense, only with a lot more capability. I'm not sure if it's just an API, or a full instrument build environment/data flow language, but it certainly seems to provide very high level audio tools, e.g., fx.

So, it's very possible that they realize that they can't code for shit and are relying on tools from other vendors in an effort to try and salvage their reputation. The knobs and other U/I elements appear to be salvaged from their other products. In other words, it might sound fine, but I'm going to let other people be the testers.
moshimoshi
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45 posts since 18 May, 2016

Postby moshimoshi; Tue May 22, 2018 2:26 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

ghettosynth wrote:the struQture engine, which, AFAIK, is not them.

https://www.qubiqaudio.com/


https://www.qubiqaudio.com/about-us

No idea about the full story behind this, but I just had a look at this page - seems like 2 out of the 3 Qubiq founders also founded/had involvement with Sonivox. So it looks like it is at least partially them.
ghettosynth
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Postby ghettosynth; Tue May 22, 2018 2:45 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

moshimoshi wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:the struQture engine, which, AFAIK, is not them.

https://www.qubiqaudio.com/


https://www.qubiqaudio.com/about-us

No idea about the full story behind this, but I just had a look at this page - seems like 2 out of the 3 Qubiq founders also founded/had involvement with Sonivox. So it looks like it is at least partially them.


I stand corrected. I probably should have read more of their website LOL! It sounds like it is, for all intents and purposes, the same people who have brought you other plugins of limited value and ability.
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Russell Grand
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1111 posts since 22 May, 2017

Postby Russell Grand; Tue May 22, 2018 2:54 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

Caine123 wrote:Dont buy their shit . This is a f++××÷ company. No support i mesaaged them on facebook and emails 3 times. No reply. F%%% them


+1
Shady company, average (at best) plugins.
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Russell Grand
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1111 posts since 22 May, 2017

Postby Russell Grand; Tue May 22, 2018 2:54 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

Aloysius wrote:SONiVOX Rectum


:hihi:
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zerocrossing
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9282 posts since 26 Jun, 2006, from San Francisco Bay Area

Postby zerocrossing; Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:02 am Re: SONiVOX Stratum

Plugivery wrote:I use to enjoy reading KVR's constructive members posts...

Have fun !

One should learn to take the good with the bad.
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moshimoshi
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45 posts since 18 May, 2016

Postby moshimoshi; Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:44 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

Plugivery wrote:I use to enjoy reading KVR's constructive members posts...

Have fun !


This sounds a bit indignant to say the least, and I think you're not doing yourself any favours. I don't have an opinion either way on users' posts here. But I notice you're a dealer for Sonivox. You should understand that the reputation a company gets for quality of software/updates/support is usually warranted. And if a company makes up completely ridiculous marketing BS there's a risk they could get called out on it. So IMHO your indignation is misplaced. It would probably be more useful to feed back the sentiments from this thread to your client Sonivox :tu:
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Aloysius
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21818 posts since 11 Aug, 2008, from a computer

Postby Aloysius; Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:34 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

+1

Also remember that customers (are usually) quite forgiving. If you want to receive praise ... do the right thing.
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chk071
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16323 posts since 10 Apr, 2010, from Germany

Postby chk071; Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:41 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

menthol wrote:I can honestly say I've never before seen such venom directed at a company in this forum. (And that's saying a lot.) :o

About who? The company or the customer?

There are companies which get shit here non-stop, yet have created some of the best-selling and most popular products. It's the nature of the beast. And, when i say beast then i mean beast.
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Aloysius
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21818 posts since 11 Aug, 2008, from a computer

Postby Aloysius; Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:43 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

chk071 wrote:... And, when i say beast then i mean breast.


:roll:
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zzz00m
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1093 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Postby zzz00m; Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:52 am Re: SONiVOX Stratum

ghettosynth wrote:
moshimoshi wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:the struQture engine, which, AFAIK, is not them.

https://www.qubiqaudio.com/


https://www.qubiqaudio.com/about-us

No idea about the full story behind this, but I just had a look at this page - seems like 2 out of the 3 Qubiq founders also founded/had involvement with Sonivox. So it looks like it is at least partially them.


I stand corrected. I probably should have read more of their website LOL! It sounds like it is, for all intents and purposes, the same people who have brought you other plugins of limited value and ability.


Exactly!
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Postby musicartist; Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:34 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

MVP loops also seem to use the struQture engine for their plugins.
Big Tick
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3216 posts since 28 May, 2001, from New York, NY

Postby Big Tick; Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:20 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

jbarish
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234 posts since 27 Apr, 2017

Postby jbarish; Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:59 pm Re: SONiVOX Stratum

Has anything ever been good from SONIVOX??? I put them in the same "Better Off Flushing Your $$$ Down the Toilet" category as Sknote, Crysonic, Beatskillz, and SoundSpot.
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