KVR Audio

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Fri May 18, 2018 3:05 am

poleda wrote:Next up 32 bit.

next up....64bit and 128, 256, 512bit because 1024bit is right around the corner

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:52 am

chk071 wrote:
ENV1 wrote:http://www.kvraudio.com/news/steinberg- ... -end-41324

Let the drama begin.
"Bye bye VST2" is exactly what they don't say. Nice clickbait though.

Steinberg wrote:VST 2 compatibility with Steinberg VST hosts will remain

But that is exactly what they are saying in not so many words. Stating VST 2 is on the way out is obviously them softening the blow that VST2 is going from Cubase, and that they will only release VST3 and maybe an incoming VST4 SDK from now on.

Any company that is going to make a big change and phase something out does it the softly softly way first by pretending to support it for as long as needed. They did this with 32bit plugins.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri May 18, 2018 6:34 am

redundant, already answered
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poleda · Post by **poleda** » Fri May 18, 2018 6:39 am

layzer wrote:
poleda wrote:Next up 32 bit.
next up....64bit and 128, 256, 512bit because 1024bit is right around the corner

Sometimes in life, letting go is the only option.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Fri May 18, 2018 7:27 am

poleda wrote:
layzer wrote:
poleda wrote:Next up 32 bit.
next up....64bit and 128, 256, 512bit because 1024bit is right around the corner

Sometimes in life, letting go is the only option.

you're like, i can cook better than you because my pot is bigger.
i'm like....

is there anywhere i can listen to your fantastic 64bit vst3 music to convince me of this? come on, lets hear it.....

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Fri May 18, 2018 8:10 am

layzer wrote: is there anywhere i can listen to your fantastic 64bit vst3 music to convince me of this? come on, lets hear it.....

Oh shut up. You're just another nobody that happen to post a lot of your 'idealistic' music on KVR.

Your music is just as bad as the rest of us.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Fri May 18, 2018 8:29 am

xamido wrote:
layzer wrote: is there anywhere i can listen to your fantastic 64bit vst3 music to convince me of this? come on, lets hear it.....
Oh shut up. You're just another nobody that happen to post a lot of your 'idealistic' music on KVR.

Your music is just as bad as the rest of us.

My music is just as bad? oh you must be talking about this:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&t=504852
yeah its awful alright.

actually, there are some of the most talented music cafe users like Frantz, Seismic, Biodiode, HTCnext2, ChamMusic, and Allomorus that would say my music is quite decent. wheres your music with lots of praise for its exceptional composition, sound design and mix, huh princess?

oh never mind, i remember your cheesy copacabana music on soundcloud...
hate on, dude.

Richard_Synapse · Post by **Richard_Synapse** » Fri May 18, 2018 8:51 am

BlitBit wrote:I think it's rather simple to create a new plugin standard. It's much harder to get most of the existing hosts to support it. Especially if there already is a successful existing one like VST2.

Yes, exactly.

A new standard would have to be extremely simple to implement, and add 2-3 killer features on top which other standards do not have. The problem with that is there's not going to be a consensus among developers of what extra features are the most desirable. Add everything developers want and the standard is no longer going to be simple...so I'm rather skeptical about the success of any new standard.

Richard

Aliens · Post by **Aliens** » Fri May 18, 2018 8:59 am

layzer wrote: My music is just as bad? oh you must be talking about this:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&t=504852
yeah its awful alright.

Wow! 35 plays. Now that's a hit

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Fri May 18, 2018 9:17 am

felis wrote: Always happens when someone comes up with a proprietary standard.

What's needed is a cooperative standard that all manufacturers and developers agree to.
Like what happened when midi was birthed.

That oportunity could have happened when Apple had the idea to come up with AU (OS X 10.2, if I'm not mistaken). If instead of creating "another" standard, they decided to sit with Steinberg, and together come up with a "true" standard, we could very well have a real cross-platform standard now.

But instead, Apple chose to go their own way, creating another "standard" that only works in OS X, and even there is not the standard. Steinberg reacted and created VST3. Avid reacted and created AAX. The result is what we have now... No standard and the chaos spread. And it seems things will become worse soon.

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:00 am

poleda wrote:Next up 32 bit.

No way!

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:04 am

layzer wrote:
poleda wrote:
layzer wrote:
poleda wrote:Next up 32 bit.
next up....64bit and 128, 256, 512bit because 1024bit is right around the corner

Sometimes in life, letting go is the only option.

you're like, i can cook better than you because my pot is bigger.
i'm like....

is there anywhere i can listen to your fantastic 64bit vst3 music to convince me of this? come on, lets hear it.....

felis · Post by **felis** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:48 am

poleda wrote:
felis wrote:What's needed is a cooperative standard that all manufacturers and developers agree to.
You mean something like VST3? It works great.

When did all manufacturers and developers agree to implement VST 3?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:59 am

layzer wrote: you're like, i can cook better than you because my pot is bigger.
i'm like....

No, you just don't get it, that's the problem. I'm not surprised though, you seem to be a religious fella, so, it's no wonder you're holding on to something with religious fundamentalism, which totally prevent you from understanding even the most logical and rational reasoning.

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Fri May 18, 2018 1:57 pm

Steinberg have dismally failed with VST3. Somebody needs to petition Yamaha Corp to take control of the VST standard. Then they need to publish a public development roadmap, they need to listen to feedback from the community & developers, and they need to make further development of the VST format a collaborative process with other industry players since it’s become a universal standard. They also need to support more platforms such as Linux and Android.

They should also have VST developers conferences and public workshops to get people together discussing.