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trancemaster1339
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Postby trancemaster1339; Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:48 pm Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

Some questions:

I'd say the 20mb sample rom is an Add-on to the existing 8 mb sampled waveforms.
So this should not be allowed then, is it?

"Only oscillator types" states: just default crystal? Or are there any restictions inside the synth? (some waveforms aren't really oscillators i guess...)
vsinger
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Postby vsinger; Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:10 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

i downloaded only crystall dll file, and instrument has 21 sampled waves

please clarify, what can we use


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trancemaster1339
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Postby trancemaster1339; Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:50 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

Thanks @vsinger , now that i read the first rule again it becomes more obvious we can only use the "synthesized" ones...

It litterally says that, so i assume that's what @bjporter means.
vsinger
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Postby vsinger; Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:55 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

But its strange limitation, because even factory presets are using this waves,
so i have to check if each preset uses right wave?

At least we have to be able to use factory presets.
The Chase
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Postby The Chase; Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:34 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

I like the rule. Romplers don't really suit the contest.
tatanka
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Postby tatanka; Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:43 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

I personally would not relate Tim Conrady presets to a rompler, but to each his own....

I know this is not SONG-SYNTH-CHALLENGE (if I have ever forgot about WHY I left this place, thank you for the reminders here....) but a SYNTH challenge (who cares about the song....), o.k. have fun....
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bh9090
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264 posts since 7 Dec, 2006, from Richmond, VA, USA

Postby bh9090; Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:26 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

Wow. I think I used this thing in the 90s. :lol: Can't believe it's still going.
pilotredsun
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45 posts since 16 Sep, 2016

Postby pilotredsun; Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:21 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

This one brings back memories. Probably the first VST I ever downloaded once I found out you can use 3rd-party plugins in a DAW. Looking forward to the outcome of this contest
zarf
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333 posts since 20 Jan, 2013

Postby zarf; Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:24 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

pilotredsun wrote:This one brings back memories. Probably the first VST I ever downloaded once I found out you can use 3rd-party plugins in a DAW. Looking forward to the outcome of this contest
Will you be entering this month? :hyper: (I've really enjoyed the tracks I've heard of yours in previous OSCs)
pilotredsun
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Postby pilotredsun; Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:36 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

zarf wrote:
pilotredsun wrote:This one brings back memories. Probably the first VST I ever downloaded once I found out you can use 3rd-party plugins in a DAW. Looking forward to the outcome of this contest
Will you be entering this month? :hyper: (I've really enjoyed the tracks I've heard of yours in previous OSCs)

Maybe. It all comes down to if I can get enough momentum going during the WIP stage. And if there are no project breaking bugs from using 30 instances of the same plugin.
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teilo
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Postby teilo; Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:48 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

bh9090 wrote:Wow. I think I used this thing in the 90s. :lol: Can't believe it's still going.


So that explains the UI. First thing I thought: Straight out of the 90s.

Also: Despite there being no info on the site about the architecture, this does appear to be a 64-bit-only synth on Mac.

I also got a kick out of the note that said that the VST is only for Cubase.
macOS 10.13.x | Ableton 10 | Bitwig 2.x | Reason 10
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rockingricky
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66 posts since 18 Jan, 2010, from Germany

Postby rockingricky; Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:28 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

Finally I found about twenty preset banks including about 1850 patches! :phew:
I didn't listen to all of them (yet), but what I can't find still now: the basics
No drums, percussion, brass, strings and so on!
Seems Crystal is overqualified for bread-and-butter sounds :wink:

I suppose I have to create my own patches :shrug: (with "synthesized" waveforms of course)

BTW, my opinion in this sampled/synthesized discussion:

Yes, I agree, that usually sampled sounds should not be allowed, because the results wouldn't be comparable, if everyone uses his own wav files and I have no problem to make sounds only with this synth waveforms ...

... but in this case: We all work with the same machine, we all have the same amount and types of waves (I think the samples are included in the .dll file?). And to be honest: Don't we bend every month this sine-triangle-sawtooth-things :roll:

So in this month I would accept an exception according to our OSC motto: "Tweak it to the max." :D
generaldiomedes
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503 posts since 14 Apr, 2017, from Canada

Postby generaldiomedes; Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:09 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

teilo wrote:Wow. I think I used this thing in the 90s. :lol: Can't believe it's still going.


Well now there is even an iPad version so somebody is actively developing.

http://www.greenoak.com/crystal/Crystal/Crystal.html

But what it really needs is a new GUI ..
functionform
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194 posts since 13 May, 2017, from Virginia

Postby functionform; Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:10 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

I think when we did Diodow and Thorn we were limited to built in samples. I would be ok with here, but I'm also fine with the synth ones. Crystal seems very full featured for so I expect sound design on this OSC to be very high quality.

I do wish we could do a SQ8L OSC. Been meaning to spend some time with that baby.
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TrojakEW
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216 posts since 20 Mar, 2012, from Slovakia

Postby TrojakEW; Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:26 am Re: One Synth Challenge #114: Crystal by Green Oak

Interesting looking synth. Too bad I will be not able to join this round. Too busy. But I will make some time to hear all tracks. Good luck.
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