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Bug Music
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Postby Bug Music; Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:52 pm Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

Funkybot's Evil Twin
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Postby Funkybot's Evil Twin; Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:58 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

Looks like a great update. And free too? Cool company. If I wasn't already happy with Acoustic Samples B5, I'd definitely be looking at this. There's a little bit of GAS that makes me want to demo this anyway, but I'm gonna hold strong. For now.
dickiefunk
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Postby dickiefunk; Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:07 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

I'm comparing both Blue3 2.0 and B5 at the moment :tu:
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Postby dickiefunk; Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:47 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

I have to say after playing with these for the past couple of hours B5 is still the one that sounds and feels the closest to playing a real Hammond to me. However, Blue3 2.0 is still seriously good and quite remarkable considering the sound is done by modelling! The UI is a delight to use and has the best one of all the Hammond VSTi's :tu:
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aMUSEd
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Postby aMUSEd; Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:53 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

I'd take this over a sampled organ any day - but waiting for a sale
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digitalboytn
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Postby digitalboytn; Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:18 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

aMUSEd wrote:I'd take this over a sampled organ any day - but waiting for a sale


:tu:

There is a HUGE difference between a sampled organ and one that is physically modelled :wink:
Sorry - I don't use auto-tune....
jsp1979
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Postby jsp1979; Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:20 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

aMUSEd wrote:I'd take this over a sampled organ any day - but waiting for a sale



Have they ever had a sale?
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Postby Funkybot's Evil Twin; Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:23 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

digitalboytn wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:I'd take this over a sampled organ any day - but waiting for a sale


:tu:

There is a HUGE difference between a sampled organ and one that is physically modelled :wink:


The B5 is quite a bit more than where my mind goes when I hear "sampled organ." So if you have similar biases, I wouldn't knock-it based on any preconcieved notions. Once you get into the speaker and advanced preferences, you immediately see that this wasn't just a job of taking an organ sampling each drawbar and combining them. There's four different tonewheel sets and a lot of scripting happening and to make it very flexible and [IMO] the best hammond plugin on the market at the moment. Also, the Leslie is the very good [algorithmic] UVI Leslie, with some additional IR's applied to capture the tone of their particular Leslies. So yeah, it's sample based, but it's DEEP and there's a lot of stuff happening via scripting. Most importantly, the sound is great.

Anyway, not trying to knock Blue3, which as I mentioned earlier, is very good. The first time I used Blue3 I thought it was pretty bad...then I realized there were all these different tonewheel sets. After that, I was really quite impressed wtih what it's capable of. The new GUI and standalone Leslie are nice additions too. Totally a solid product.

Where I think Blue3 and even VB3 have an edge over B5 is the very lowest registers. B5 doesn't quite get the sub frequencies that the modelled organs do. Now, that's a bit of a double edged sword for me because there's something synthetic [pure sine] that I hear in the modelled organs, but I totally get why some people prefer the beefy bottom of those over B5.

In the end, it's a good time for hammond plugins. There was a good stretch of time where there wasn't a good 64-bit option and there's currently 3.
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Niowiad
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Postby Niowiad; Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:34 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

No more blue skin? :hihi:
Anyway... I'm getting this one, sooner or later. :love:
Good move on also selling the rotary plugin separately.
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Fleer
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Postby Fleer; Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:12 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

Absolutely love it :tu:
bubusdeolivos
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Postby bubusdeolivos; Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:13 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

Downloaded v2 of BLUE3 and it looks and sound great!

One concern though. The MIDI learn function work very well in the standalone organ and with GarageBand but it doesn't work on Logic...any ideas...Same happens with GSI VB3 II
Hope Ray will chime in.

Thanks
pianopaul01
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Postby pianopaul01; Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:50 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

I am using Blue3 in a Pinkk Floyd Tribute Band.
I was using B5-V2 and VB3 II and Blue3 and I have to say, only Blue3 cuts through the mix.

The others sound really good standalone, but on the context of a band Blue3 is the winner.

Not to forget the excellent support you get from the company.
They really think about what users say.
dickiefunk
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2489 posts since 22 Mar, 2006, from cornwall

Postby dickiefunk; Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:02 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
digitalboytn wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:I'd take this over a sampled organ any day - but waiting for a sale


:tu:

There is a HUGE difference between a sampled organ and one that is physically modelled :wink:


The B5 is quite a bit more than where my mind goes when I hear "sampled organ." So if you have similar biases, I wouldn't knock-it based on any preconcieved notions. Once you get into the speaker and advanced preferences, you immediately see that this wasn't just a job of taking an organ sampling each drawbar and combining them. There's four different tonewheel sets and a lot of scripting happening and to make it very flexible and [IMO] the best hammond plugin on the market at the moment. Also, the Leslie is the very good [algorithmic] UVI Leslie, with some additional IR's applied to capture the tone of their particular Leslies. So yeah, it's sample based, but it's DEEP and there's a lot of stuff happening via scripting. Most importantly, the sound is great.

Anyway, not trying to knock Blue3, which as I mentioned earlier, is very good. The first time I used Blue3 I thought it was pretty bad...then I realized there were all these different tonewheel sets. After that, I was really quite impressed wtih what it's capable of. The new GUI and standalone Leslie are nice additions too. Totally a solid product.

Where I think Blue3 and even VB3 have an edge over B5 is the very lowest registers. B5 doesn't quite get the sub frequencies that the modelled organs do. Now, that's a bit of a double edged sword for me because there's something synthetic [pure sine] that I hear in the modelled organs, but I totally get why some people prefer the beefy bottom of those over B5.

In the end, it's a good time for hammond plugins. There was a good stretch of time where there wasn't a good 64-bit option and there's currently 3.


Yes B5 is extremely flexible and powerful. It is in a completely different league to NI’s sampled organs from the Vintage Organs collection!
I agree with the your findings on the lowest registers though from the audio demos B5 is capable of those deep sub frequencies. I sent an email to AcousticSamples last night to enquire how they got those deep sounds in the lower registers and will report back.
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EvilDragon
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Postby EvilDragon; Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:08 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

What I don't like about B5 is the time it needs to load, the RAM it needs to take, and then there are a few glitches due to UVI engine in some DAWs (I love those guys, but their engine is not perfect). Not to mention the CPU usage is considerably higher compared to either VB3-II or Blue3...

B5 sounds very very good (probably the best sampled Hammond ever), but not better than VB3-II or Blue3 to me.


This is one helluva update for Blue3 users, kudos to GGA.
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aMUSEd
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Postby aMUSEd; Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:49 pm Re: Blue3- vintage tonewheel organ v2 is out !

So if you buy this does it also include Spin or do you have to buy that as well?
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