I want to invest some money I just got into my studio. At the moment I'm using a G4 with Cubase SX 2. The only VSTs I have are the few synths that came with it, the Oddity, and Crystal. I also use a lot of home made samples. I can't find nearly as many free VSTs for my mac as I could on my PC using FL. I had over 100 of them on their, only been able to get 1 somewhat useful one on the mac. So I'm thinking about giving in and buying some.
What I'm looking for is a synth that can do more organic sounds (think Boards of Canada), none of the beepy vintage sounding stuff. I want something warm and thick sounding, human not mechanical. I also feel like I don't have enough control over my samples. I don't know much about sampling but I feel like there's got to be more to it then just copying and pasting in cubase. With a budget of about 1800 I want to get the best hardware/software synths, sampler, and effects that would make my studio feel more complete. So I'm asking for suggestions.
And here is some of my music to get an idea of what I'm going for:
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseac ... 0126073734
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 180 posts since 7 Nov, 2004
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- addled muppet weed
- 105800 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
if youve already got the oddity.do you like it?
i do i think it rocks,but its little brother(in terms of company only) the impOSCar is another great addition.
but for some really nice organic lush BOC type stuff you could find yourself in love with absynth quite easily
good luck anyway
i do i think it rocks,but its little brother(in terms of company only) the impOSCar is another great addition.
but for some really nice organic lush BOC type stuff you could find yourself in love with absynth quite easily
good luck anyway
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
A few that that I'd pick right off the bat based on your post:
- Virsyn Tera
- Sampletank2 XL or Sonik Synth 2, depending on taste.
- Maybe Imposcar - it's great, but I'd look at Tera first in your case.
- Cameleon 5000 - if you're looking for something a bit different.
All of these are supported on Mac OSX.
Doug
- Virsyn Tera
- Sampletank2 XL or Sonik Synth 2, depending on taste.
- Maybe Imposcar - it's great, but I'd look at Tera first in your case.
- Cameleon 5000 - if you're looking for something a bit different.
All of these are supported on Mac OSX.
Doug
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- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
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- KVRian
- 891 posts since 11 Dec, 2003
For organic(ish) sounds , u cant really beat Arturia's CS-80V , altho its gonna hit your G4 pretty hard on the CPU . Apart from that id second krim's choice , Zebra , its deep , and organic.
For sampling u could wait for Kontakt 2 altho it is pretty steep at 500 euros ( i think ) . Otherwise there's Motu's Mach5 , no idea whats its like tho as there's no demo online.
Effects wise , if boards of canada is the sound u're goin for try PSP's 42 + 84 , they're sweet as.....plus there are demos available on PSP's site.
For hardware u might wanna check out dave smith's evolver , its only a mono synth but its capable of some crazy , beautiful sounds -
http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/evolver/sounds.html
regards
brick
For sampling u could wait for Kontakt 2 altho it is pretty steep at 500 euros ( i think ) . Otherwise there's Motu's Mach5 , no idea whats its like tho as there's no demo online.
Effects wise , if boards of canada is the sound u're goin for try PSP's 42 + 84 , they're sweet as.....plus there are demos available on PSP's site.
For hardware u might wanna check out dave smith's evolver , its only a mono synth but its capable of some crazy , beautiful sounds -
http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/evolver/sounds.html
regards
brick
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- 12368 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
synthedit.. or maxmsp or summink.. get a modular system, put some years into it.
and save the rest of your $ for all the money you won't be making whilst you do so.
or you could buy my fizmo! (which, oddly enough, bought for the exact same reason you stated, well, w/o the boc ref.) too bad for my fiz synthedit came out.
and save the rest of your $ for all the money you won't be making whilst you do so.
or you could buy my fizmo! (which, oddly enough, bought for the exact same reason you stated, well, w/o the boc ref.) too bad for my fiz synthedit came out.
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- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
SE...he has a Macxoxos wrote:synthedit.. or maxmsp or summink.. get a modular system, put some years into it.
and save the rest of your $ for all the money you won't be making whilst you do so.
or you could buy my fizmo! (which, oddly enough, bought for the exact same reason you stated, well, w/o the boc ref.) too bad for my fiz synthedit came out.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Love the term "organic synthesizer sound". 
It's such a contradiction in language; however, it IS possible and I do know what you're talking about. 
Er.. recommendations, then....
Well, the only commercial synth/player I use is Wusikstation, which I do not believe is on Mac. So that's my recommendation out the window.
Greg
It's such a contradiction in language; however, it IS possible and I do know what you're talking about. Er.. recommendations, then....
Well, the only commercial synth/player I use is Wusikstation, which I do not believe is on Mac. So that's my recommendation out the window.
Greg
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- 12368 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
well stick a glass rod up my yonk and smash it with a hammer.Kriminal wrote: SE...he has a Mac :wink:
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- KVRAF
- 3979 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
I'll second what was said about Absynth 2 being great for organic, BoCish sounds... I have a Boards' themed bank up at the NI Absynth user library. Absynth can do so much and so well, it has about the best envelopes I've seen which make for slow evolving pads, plus anti-aliased osc's. It just sounds great.
Another one: Vokator. It seems to get absolutely 0 love around here. However, it's well capable of producing that degraded warmth of BoC as well through the wicked things you can do with sample-based patches.
Another one: Vokator. It seems to get absolutely 0 love around here. However, it's well capable of producing that degraded warmth of BoC as well through the wicked things you can do with sample-based patches.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 180 posts since 7 Nov, 2004
vurt - I enjoy playing around with the Oddity although it is kind of unusal to program (probably why its called the oddity?) but it isnt the sound I want to make. I want the meat of my melodies to sound softer and grainier sounding.
Thanks for the reccomendations.
Thanks for the reccomendations.
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- KVRAF
- 4074 posts since 28 Apr, 2004
[quote="vurt"]for some really nice organic lush BOC type stuff you could find yourself in love with absynth quite easily
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best synth in the world all you need is a lead synth to add to that (look for a krakli - especially either a effem or a lizard)
steve
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best synth in the world
all you need is a lead synth to add to that (look for a krakli - especially either a effem or a lizard) steve
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- KVRAF
- 3096 posts since 3 Nov, 2002 from Kettering UK
The guys on a Mac so I'm no use to him at allblaster78 wrote:all you need is a lead synth to add to that (look for a krakli - especially either a effem or a lizard)
steve
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- KVRAF
- 3979 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
I was just thinking, since you said you've got a budget of $1800 and you're starting afresh on the Mac, just go out and get Komplete 2. It gives you scads of top-notch stuff which are useful for many things, including what you want to do.
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- KVRAF
- 2017 posts since 21 Mar, 2002 from Hutchinson, Kansas
Aw, don't be so hard on yourself, Ian. I edit Krakli stuff on my Mac a lot...via the Receptor remote, of courseianweb123 wrote:The guys on a Mac so I'm no use to him at all
Komplete will indeed get you there. Mind you, you might only need Reaktor. Sure it's deep, but with so many great ensembles available, it need only be as deep as you like. Until you decide to "roll your own" you could treat it just like any other synth. Cameleon and Cube are also good, and I use XPhraze all the time in SX3 (though I rarely touch the "rhythmic" patches...I always make my own).
However, I can't help but think that maybe you need to explore what you have as well. Try experimenting with effects and such. You may find that you can squeeze more usefulness out of your current synths. BoC made a lot of great sounds with simple analog gear, augmented with a sense of adventure. Though a sampler wouldn't go amiss...
