Just what kinds of instruments do people really want?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 775 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Hull, United Kingdom
Just a short poll here.
It occurs to me that the market is full to bursting with specific analogue emulations and virtual analogue synths on one side and romplers on the other. The middle ground between the two being relatively bare. And of course, cannot deny that these instruments keep coming and keep getting the sales. But is analogue sound and sample/synthesis all we want or are there other avenues to explore?
It occurs to me that the market is full to bursting with specific analogue emulations and virtual analogue synths on one side and romplers on the other. The middle ground between the two being relatively bare. And of course, cannot deny that these instruments keep coming and keep getting the sales. But is analogue sound and sample/synthesis all we want or are there other avenues to explore?
Have a better one - Saul Cross
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- KVRAF
- 7827 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
I won't vote because I don't want only one kind of synth. Never have and never will...I use at least one in each of your list, and the odd hybrid synth.
Analogue-ish type sounds are my personal favourite, but I can't survive on just those.
Analogue-ish type sounds are my personal favourite, but I can't survive on just those.
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- KVRAF
- 5193 posts since 6 May, 2002
Physical modelling of orchestral brass/wind/reed
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
Ditto...electro wrote:Physical modelling of orchestral brass/wind/reed
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=
How much longer do you think it's gonna take for our message to get through, Electro?
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 15844 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
I think we have types of instruments pretty well covered across the board. I'm looking for instruments that are easier to work with yet still powerful enough to be useful.
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- KVRAF
- 5815 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
I's shell out the cash for an acoustic guitar/flute/horns/violin VSTi that sounds like the original
c'mon devs, show us what you've made of!
c'mon devs, show us what you've made of!
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- KVRist
- 350 posts since 7 Sep, 2004 from UK
There are other avenus still left to explore, which are going to be fullfilled once Sculpture becomes available for PC. Do you get my drift ?saulc12 wrote:... But is analogue sound and sample/synthesis all we want or are there other avenues to explore?
I think the developers here on KvR have covered pretty much all synthesis areas, as BONES said. However, I'm interested in a fully featured Physical Modelling VSTi, that's what I voted for. So it's basically a race between a developer here and my money saving ability, since Tassman 4 is calling me.
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- KVRist
- 350 posts since 7 Sep, 2004 from UK
Actually, I'd be interested to see, what people would choose to cover all the synthesis methods mentioned in the poll, from KvR developers only.
This would probably end up in a locked thread ?
This would probably end up in a locked thread ?
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- KVRian
- 1145 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
I voted for Multi Physical modelling from that list, but I would really like developers to mix sampling and powerfull synthesis more fully. Tassman with fully intergrated sampling, and granular oscillators or for Tera 3 to include sampling and granular oscillator options with a wide range of import formats and full editing of samples. Also agree with bones about making some of the complicated wonderfull synths out there we already have even easier to use.
I think complex filtering on samplers could be explored alot more, not just mutilple filters but filters along the lines of EMU Z plane filters, with morphing and complex modelling aspects. This also has the bonus that everyones familar with filtering and still keeps the signal path simple, so its just taking what they know further, reducing the learning curve.
I think complex filtering on samplers could be explored alot more, not just mutilple filters but filters along the lines of EMU Z plane filters, with morphing and complex modelling aspects. This also has the bonus that everyones familar with filtering and still keeps the signal path simple, so its just taking what they know further, reducing the learning curve.
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- Banned
- 1636 posts since 18 Mar, 2004 from Lincoln, CA
We have all kinds of cool softsynths these days, so that's already covered. What we really need now are instruments that are as easy to use and small in size as a typical VST, but have the sound quality of highend sample libraries. The sizes of sample libraries keep getting bigger and bigger, and I think it's gotten way out of hand. Developers need to go back to the drawing board and come up with innovative physical modelling and programming that can realistically emulate hard to sample instruments. Recording gigabytes of samples per instrument isn't the answer. Yes, hard drives are cheap these days, but counting on hard drive space is about as elegant a solution as using brute force when folding origami. I think the future will be represented by stuff like Synful and Edirol HQ Orchestra--small in size (relatively speaking), but have great sound and playability.
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- KVRist
- 76 posts since 7 Oct, 2003 from Paris, France
"Emulation of Classic Synth (analogue)"
It might be stupid but I like these synths. That's the electronic sound I like. Even it's virtual, it's always a pleasure to see these old style synths.
It might be stupid but I like these synths. That's the electronic sound I like. Even it's virtual, it's always a pleasure to see these old style synths.
Analog sounds
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 775 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Hull, United Kingdom
Super String Thing does a very convincing acoustic guitar and also does pretty good flute and some other sounds too so you could check out the demo - but I won't say anymore because I am hijacking my own thread hihi...pakana wrote:I's shell out the cash for an acoustic guitar/flute/horns/violin VSTi that sounds like the original
c'mon devs, show us what you've made of!
But seriously I put my own vote in first and I agree with all those people so far who want more physical modelling synths and better sound quality from them.
Have a better one - Saul Cross
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 775 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Hull, United Kingdom
How can you be so sure that sculpture will become available for PC and have you listened closely to the demos, they are certainly impressive but the acoustic sounds do seem to have a slightly plastic quality to them - I suspect that although this is a great synth, it is still not the perfect solution for acoustic instruments.Forever Sun wrote:There are other avenus still left to explore, which are going to be fullfilled once Sculpture becomes available for PC. Do you get my drift ?saulc12 wrote:... But is analogue sound and sample/synthesis all we want or are there other avenues to explore?
I think the developers here on KvR have covered pretty much all synthesis areas, as BONES said. However, I'm interested in a fully featured Physical Modelling VSTi, that's what I voted for. So it's basically a race between a developer here and my money saving ability, since Tassman 4 is calling me.
Have a better one - Saul Cross
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
i'd say he is talking about the new AAS "competitor"saulc12 wrote:How can you be so sure that sculpture will become available for PC and have you listened closely to the demos, they are certainly impressive but the acoustic sounds do seem to have a slightly plastic quality to them - I suspect that although this is a great synth, it is still not the perfect solution for acoustic instruments.Forever Sun wrote:There are other avenus still left to explore, which are going to be fullfilled once Sculpture becomes available for PC. Do you get my drift ?saulc12 wrote:... But is analogue sound and sample/synthesis all we want or are there other avenues to explore?
I think the developers here on KvR have covered pretty much all synthesis areas, as BONES said. However, I'm interested in a fully featured Physical Modelling VSTi, that's what I voted for. So it's basically a race between a developer here and my money saving ability, since Tassman 4 is calling me.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 775 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Hull, United Kingdom
Is this there physically modelled strings synth - been looking forward to seeing what this one can do, but they don't seem to have had any audio demos, just some very brief news from NAMMttoz wrote:i'd say he is talking about the new AAS "competitor"saulc12 wrote:How can you be so sure that sculpture will become available for PC and have you listened closely to the demos, they are certainly impressive but the acoustic sounds do seem to have a slightly plastic quality to them - I suspect that although this is a great synth, it is still not the perfect solution for acoustic instruments.Forever Sun wrote:There are other avenus still left to explore, which are going to be fullfilled once Sculpture becomes available for PC. Do you get my drift ?saulc12 wrote:... But is analogue sound and sample/synthesis all we want or are there other avenues to explore?
I think the developers here on KvR have covered pretty much all synthesis areas, as BONES said. However, I'm interested in a fully featured Physical Modelling VSTi, that's what I voted for. So it's basically a race between a developer here and my money saving ability, since Tassman 4 is calling me.
Have a better one - Saul Cross