Is there any sense to use chords for techno bass?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 918 posts since 25 Mar, 2012
I dont talk about specific chord sounds like these house stabs. I mean bass for techno in the range between 60Hz to 120Hz. Until now I use just monophonic sounds. But i realized that even bass could be sound better with intervalls or even chords. But why it is common to use bass monophonic when chords sound good? Furthermore is there any problem with the low frequencies I havent realized yet?
Thanks for your help!
Thanks for your help!
- KVRAF
- 15269 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Just try it... Do bassy chords really sound good to you? To me they don't...
But if you think otherwise, then go ahead and make this your personal style. Power to you!
But if you think otherwise, then go ahead and make this your personal style. Power to you!
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- KVRist
- 50 posts since 14 Jul, 2016
If it sounds good, don't bother.
But I seriously doubt that one can distinctly hear chords in that frequency range. As it is the close to the lowest limit we can hear (~20Hz), it is hard for the ear to tell which note is being played. So if you start stacking them up, it becomes muddy very quickly.
From a spectral point of view, I guess it can create some destructive interferences (usually neglictable with higher frenquencies but not here), and result in weird artifacts.
Do you have an audio example ?
But I seriously doubt that one can distinctly hear chords in that frequency range. As it is the close to the lowest limit we can hear (~20Hz), it is hard for the ear to tell which note is being played. So if you start stacking them up, it becomes muddy very quickly.
From a spectral point of view, I guess it can create some destructive interferences (usually neglictable with higher frenquencies but not here), and result in weird artifacts.
Do you have an audio example ?
- KVRist
- 49 posts since 13 Oct, 2016 from Germany
it will sound muddy, but instead you have a few options
a) .stacking octaves and fiddle around with the volume of each octave maybe LP the higher octaves
b) using two bass patches, one patch is your usual sub channel, monophonic (and/or stacked octaves), dry, LP around 100-250 hz
the other bass is highpassed around 100-250 hz here you can go wild with chords, polyphony, detuning and effects everything you like. try out different octaves aswell
with separating the subbass, you will avoid muddyness, phase cancellation etc.
a) .stacking octaves and fiddle around with the volume of each octave maybe LP the higher octaves
b) using two bass patches, one patch is your usual sub channel, monophonic (and/or stacked octaves), dry, LP around 100-250 hz
the other bass is highpassed around 100-250 hz here you can go wild with chords, polyphony, detuning and effects everything you like. try out different octaves aswell
with separating the subbass, you will avoid muddyness, phase cancellation etc.
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- KVRAF
- 1676 posts since 17 Dec, 2002 from Yorkshire
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- KVRist
- 84 posts since 31 Mar, 2011
Chords (or two note intervals) using a simple sinewave oscillator sounds legit to me, if they are not interference with the kick.
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- KVRist
- 84 posts since 31 Mar, 2011
I think its it as example for the op.bronxsound wrote:cant wait to hear the examples.
https://soundcloud.com/kneedeepinsound/ ... urfer-clip
- KVRAF
- 15269 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
That would be a "house stab" (which the OP is specifically not referring to...)ere2learn wrote:Tune 3 or 4 oscillators to your preferred voicing in mono,one note chords
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- KVRist
- 50 posts since 14 Jul, 2016
The result must be quite the same whether it is two oscillators or if you play two notes with a monophonic patch.
Well, soundwaves may be different on the first case but it doesn't change much.
I'm a bit confound with redsunmusik example... It has somewhat of an harmonic value, but it's mostly rhythmic
Well, soundwaves may be different on the first case but it doesn't change much.
I'm a bit confound with redsunmusik example... It has somewhat of an harmonic value, but it's mostly rhythmic