Is 32 voice polyphony enough for a keyboard?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3441 posts since 15 Mar, 2003
I am looking for a digital piano or workstation and I am wondering if 32 voices is enough or if that will cause note drop-offs.
How about 64 voice?
Should I go for 128? Is that overkill?
I will most likely record one track at a time into my DAW.
I will not be trying to play complete songs through the keyboard.
How about 64 voice?
Should I go for 128? Is that overkill?
I will most likely record one track at a time into my DAW.
I will not be trying to play complete songs through the keyboard.
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- KVRAF
- 6939 posts since 4 Jun, 2004 from Utrecht, Holland
You only have 10 fingers Do you play a lot of piano with the sustain pedal?
Me thinks 32 should be enough. When in doubt, go visit a real shop and demo one with 32 voices. Try to make it drop notes....
Me thinks 32 should be enough. When in doubt, go visit a real shop and demo one with 32 voices. Try to make it drop notes....
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- KVRAF
- 9451 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
Remember that it's common for a sound to consist of several layers that'll use a voice each.
A Piano/Strings combo for example can easily use 3-4 voices for each key. Combine that with heavy use of sustain pedal you can reach the 32 voice limit in no time. OTOH Kraftwerk used like 3 voice polyphony for Autobahn and it did'nt seem to hurt their career.
A Piano/Strings combo for example can easily use 3-4 voices for each key. Combine that with heavy use of sustain pedal you can reach the 32 voice limit in no time. OTOH Kraftwerk used like 3 voice polyphony for Autobahn and it did'nt seem to hurt their career.
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- KVRist
- 257 posts since 23 Oct, 2005
32 voices should be enough for track at a time recording. In the unlikely event you do run out of notes, you could record the part in two takes (or record the midi in addition to the audio and if you get a drop out but were happy with the performance, use the midi file to create two takes.)
Mind you, that's only if you run out of voices.
Mind you, that's only if you run out of voices.
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- KVRian
- 933 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Guanajuato, Mexico
32 notes may not be enough for sustain piano playing. Trust me.C00kie wrote:You only have 10 fingers Do you play a lot of piano with the sustain pedal?
Me thinks 32 should be enough. When in doubt, go visit a real shop and demo one with 32 voices. Try to make it drop notes....
Most of these synths have a 4-layer architecture, which means they can use up to 4 voices per note.
Now, imagine you want a really nice thick pad, so you do it with 4 layers. A 32-voice synth would only give you 8 notes of polyphony for your pad. This is barely enough, especially if the pad has a long release. Play a quick progression of 4-note chords and you'll be stealing notes very soon.
Also, most of these synths require two layers for a true stereo sound (e.g., their multisamples may be mono). So, a stereo piano would only give you 16 notes of polyphony, which is pretty low for piano parts with sustain pedal.
So, like a previous poster said, 32 voices may be enough for single-patch playing, but you may get in trouble if you try to sequence varios parts, especially multi-layer sounds. It all depends on what you want to use the synth for.
For playing, 32 voices may be enough. For sequencing, I'd suggest a 64 or 128 voice synth instead.
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
For Piano, harps aso : 32 Voices is enough for basic background keys or semicomplex partitions. If the piano is not too present in the mix, it will allways be enough and the voice steal should'nt be noticeable.
It won't be enough for solo (or Jazz trio for example) piano and complex partitions.
Like Jupiter8 mentioned it layers steal one voice per layer, so its rather easy to be short here too.
And like Fac mentioned it, pedal play will use A LOT of voices too.
128 is by far the best.
Hope this helps,
LtZ
It won't be enough for solo (or Jazz trio for example) piano and complex partitions.
Like Jupiter8 mentioned it layers steal one voice per layer, so its rather easy to be short here too.
And like Fac mentioned it, pedal play will use A LOT of voices too.
128 is by far the best.
Hope this helps,
LtZ
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