It went for £116 and i forgot about itKriminal wrote:There is a Nova desktop on ebay now ( currently £77) but its untested
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
i like the sound of the Gaia and really like the layout...i just got a Venom tho, might be too much similarity to bother getting either...?werp wrote:I have both, i prefer the Roland even though I love the 'tweak' and 'touch' modes offered by the Novation.Kriminal wrote:How is the Ulranova Rob? Would you recommend it over the Gaia?
I guess I prefer knobs and faders and the three layers over digital deep diving.
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- KVRist
- 188 posts since 10 Dec, 2012
Had the GAIA for a few months . Hands down one of the best layouts on any VA synth. It was a purposeful approach to avoid the screen all together (and thus menu diving as well).
That said, as GREAT of a learning tool it was for learning synthesis, the sound wasn't for me.
I am surprised no one has tried to mod out the filter on it as it might change it to a different beast all together.
But yea, a pleasure to program and it has a 3rd party ARP editor program out there. Possibly does sound editing as well?? Don't recall so TIWAGOS and salt is very bad for you BTW ...
That said, as GREAT of a learning tool it was for learning synthesis, the sound wasn't for me.
I am surprised no one has tried to mod out the filter on it as it might change it to a different beast all together.
But yea, a pleasure to program and it has a 3rd party ARP editor program out there. Possibly does sound editing as well?? Don't recall so TIWAGOS and salt is very bad for you BTW ...
- KVRAF
- 2022 posts since 15 Aug, 2012 from Australia
The Ultranova comes with a VST editor that I haven't installed yet. Maybe I'll do that this weekend. The VST doesn't allow audio, so Line out into the desk for that.Kriminal wrote:The Ultranova seems to have better sonic possibilities. Gaia only has 1 LFO....need to get some hands on action with the Ultra.
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- KVRAF
- 8074 posts since 16 Oct, 2006
Iv'e got 2 on Ebay now Dave.. Black/Silver and Black/White. The latter is brand new unused. I just got me another Supernova keyboard and a TI Desktop so selling these.Kriminal wrote:Im not fussed about DAW integration, i'd only use it to make patches. The synths are used live mostly.
£400 each mate the paint jobs cost half that again, email me if interested on 19hrs to go on the listing
Rob
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- KVRian
- 1336 posts since 21 Dec, 2004
Rob, those two synths are absolutely beautiful in the black and white versions, but I have to ask since you were pretty much so impressed to buy two and customize them plus think about getting the mini to go with the two Ultras, isn't the lack of Unison and multitimbral features causing the sale a little like throwing the baby out with the bathwater? I mean, they are great sounding synths still, right?rob_lee wrote:Iv'e got 2 on Ebay now Dave.. Black/Silver and Black/White. The latter is brand new unused. I just got me another Supernova keyboard and a TI Desktop so selling these.Kriminal wrote:Im not fussed about DAW integration, i'd only use it to make patches. The synths are used live mostly.
£400 each mate the paint jobs cost half that again, email me if interested on 19hrs to go on the listing
Rob
Just curious because I was looking at the mininova as a future purchase. I always did like the Nova, Supernova, and Supernova II for their mass of tweakable control and multi functions, but I thought the Ultra and Mini versions of these looked very playable still with good live tweaking possibilities.
How much of the sounds of the Ultra can be recreated on the Supernova?
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- KVRAF
- 8074 posts since 16 Oct, 2006
The lack of the Unison Spread function pretty much pissed me off mate. The sound of these are great indeed (Pads etc) but they just have to go now. The vst editor is crashing constantly too. The Supernova and Nova XL i have are more to my liking. It's just personal taste though.Wormhelmet wrote:I have to ask since you were pretty much so impressed to buy two and customize them plus think about getting the mini to go with the two Ultras, isn't the lack of Unison and multitimbral features causing the sale a little like throwing the baby out with the bathwater?
How much of the sounds of the Ultra can be recreated on the Supernova?
Also yeah these are looking great too.. i was gonna keep one of them just for show lol but iv'e been shopping and need to sell
IMO the Ultra Nova's sound is great BUT the old stuff i.e Supernova sounds better to me personally mate.
Rob
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- KVRian
- 1336 posts since 21 Dec, 2004
Thanks for the reply. I just bought a bunch of gear off eBay in the last few months and saw a few of the Nova and Suprnovas come up for sale for really good prices. Maybe I'll keep my eye out for a good used Supernova then. I just wish more companies would stick to having the controls right on the surface and not rely on some VST editor. Particularly with VA's. at that point, if you can't really tweak the knobs so much, you might as well go with an actual vst. Bring back tactile control of all or almost all parameters!
Why Novation stepped backward by leaving out Unison and some multitimbral ability really doesn't make much sense. It can't cost that much more.
Why Novation stepped backward by leaving out Unison and some multitimbral ability really doesn't make much sense. It can't cost that much more.
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- KVRAF
- 8074 posts since 16 Oct, 2006
My thoughts tooWormhelmet wrote:
Why Novation stepped backward by leaving out Unison and some multitimbral ability really doesn't make much sense. It can't cost that much more.
Anyways i still love the Novation sound but i felt let down by that feature being left out here. With the older Novas and Supernovas the sound is just right for me. All parts are multi and retain their fx on each part with no loss.. for the price of an Ultra Nova i'd go for a used 24/36 voice version keyboard of the Nova/Supernova everytime.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Don't know what is the appropriate thread, so i'll just post it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwNlqAz9HTA
Might be of interest for owners of the Ultra-/Mininova.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwNlqAz9HTA
Might be of interest for owners of the Ultra-/Mininova.
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- KVRian
- 1379 posts since 27 Nov, 2008 from uk
I understand this.Clydewinder wrote:I picked up an Ultranova a few weeks ago and LOVE it... tried out the Gaia in store as well but I thought the key action on the Ultranova was far superior. I wasn't even planning to really buy anything that day but after playing with it in guitar center for an hour there was no way I was leaving without it.
Haven't used it with a computer at all, I just programmed a bunch of patches and have been using it for live performance ( loud rock & roll band ). Have been getting many compliments after shows about the sound of it and I couldn't be happier with it. I guess the way it programs and plays just "clicks" with the way my brain works.
I went to the music shop to try/buy and moog minitaur and roland gaia.
Spent 5 minutes with minitaur and reached its limits quick. Tried the slim phatty next to it and was blown away!
Next went on to try the Gaia, couldn't change the patch lol (I have been using hardware/software synths for over 15 years too)! I tweeked the filter a bit and didn't like the sound or feel of the knob. Next onto the ultranova and was straight in to the presets and liked the sound. The sales guy and myself programmed a basic supersaw patch in a couple of minutes and I thought the ultranova was quick to edit.
So, I left with a slim phatty and ultranova and have spent the last few days programming them and LOVE THEM! There are ways around the unison spread (or lack thereof) with the pan-mod, osc drift, lfos and osc density and detune etc... so you can get some big trance leads out of the ultranova (not the moog though, obviously) and the other digital sounds are great.
P.S, I don't program with the vst as I think the synth is very easy and quick to program.
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