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Apratim
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Postby Apratim; Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:58 pm Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

tapper mike wrote:wait....

Sonic Core SCOPE XITE-1 was based on the old Creamware sound cards circa 98? And it runs on SHARC Processors? Aren't sharc processors like ram/rom sparc type all in one processor, ram like harddrive systems that can lose all memory if there isn't a constant supply of battery present?

This would be a kin to my old old keyboard workstations and digitech RP10 pedal board

sharc chips are also used in UAD accelerator card
Its a old tech but it is reliable and is most powerful chip for audio processing

And no sharc are not rom nor ram
They are simple processers like the cpu in your pc ony diffrence is that it is good at processing particular type of data rather than being good in all type of data
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:19 am Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

I thought the UADs used some graphics chip, or at least the ones that are the same age as Pulsars etc are ?
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Postby tapper mike; Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:46 am Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

Well it looks like I learned something new... Thank you.
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Postby sl1200mk2; Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:21 am Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

VariKusBrainZ wrote:I thought the UADs used some graphics chip, or at least the ones that are the same age as Pulsars etc are ?


That was UAD-1 which IIRC was based on a chip that was used primarily for video encoding/decoding. For UAD-2, they ported everything over to SHARC.

I was a big Scope user and fan (15+ DSP system) in late 90's and early 2000's, so I'm happy to see they've hung on this long. I wouldn't have ever guessed that and the platform looked like it was heading for death, so I sold off while I could still recoup. Scope was fantastic at the time and nothing native came close in terms of sound quality for synths, not to mention it was offloaded. Only thing "better" (debatable how you used it, but not necessarily in sound quality) was hardware VA's (e.g. Virus, Nord, SuperNova) and analog synths. That said, it was always buggy, quirky and you just learned how deal with it and the workarounds. I wonder if it's still limited to 44.1?

I personally wouldn't buy into the platform today, it doesn't fit my needs and quality wise native has caught up if not surpassed it. I'm not against DSP, I own a UAD Apollo Twin, but I only bought/use the plugins that are uniquely UAD (and it's a great interface). For me, DSP for computer based systems isn't nearly as relevant as it was 15+ years ago. If DSP evolves and leap frogs native again, I'd jump back on board, but I don't anticipate that happening. My use isn't everyone's, so it's probably still a good fit for someone, so glad to see the platform live on.
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Postby Mr Arkadin; Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:45 am Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

sl1200mk2 wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:I wonder if it's still limited to 44.1?


I bought mine in 2000 and I don't recall ever being limited to 44.1. In any case it's not.

And to clear things up, XITE-1 uses six older Sharc DSPs for backward conpatibility and twelve newer Sharc ADSP21369 DSPs.
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:34 am Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

Mr Arkadin wrote:
sl1200mk2 wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:I wonder if it's still limited to 44.1?


I bought mine in 2000 and I don't recall ever being limited to 44.1. In any case it's not.

And to clear things up, XITE-1 uses six older Sharc DSPs for backward conpatibility and twelve newer Sharc ADSP21369 DSPs.


Youve misquoted, I didnt state that.

I also got my Pulsar back then and dont remember any sample rate issue.

Ive got 2 Pulsars working great on Win 10 64bit :)
No more space on my motherboard for more
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Postby Mr Arkadin; Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:20 am Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

Sorry about the misquote, I'm trying to do this from an old iPhone 4S. I'll try and fix later when I'm on a proper computer.
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:27 am Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

Mr Arkadin wrote:Sorry about the misquote, I'm trying to do this from an old iPhone 4S. I'll try and fix later when I'm on a proper computer.


Dont worry :wink:
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Apratim
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Postby Apratim; Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:31 am Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

So what should i do according to you guys

get another pc (and run it in slave mode with reaper) and reaktor
Or

What??
At start i was kinda intrigued with the modular 4 and some other classic synth
Because in the name of hardware synth I have only a old casino synth with single oscillator :(
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Postby Mr Arkadin; Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:16 am Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

It's quite a unique system and isn't for everyone. For me the routing abilities are as important as the synths, effects etc. Your priorities might be different.

If you've never used Scope at all then I'd probably try a second-hand 6 or 15 DSP card, invest in Scope 7 and try that out. That way you could find if you like the sound, the routing window etc. before investing in an XITE system and then finding out you don't like it.

You will also find good Scope-related advice at
http://forums.scopeusers.com/
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Postby sl1200mk2; Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:48 pm Re: Sonic Core Scope platform (XITE-1). Significantly better than native plug ins?

Mr Arkadin wrote:I bought mine in 2000 and I don't recall ever being limited to 44.1. In any case it's not.


K - I don't remember exactly now, it's been 15 years, but I recall something about 44.1 and being limited to that for <insert whatever> reason. Maybe it was just my setup... dunno, but doesn't matter now though.
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