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Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:34 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMeZF5bRjq8

More info at: http://www.nektartech.com/panorama-t4-t ... oller.html

zyguli · Post by **zyguli** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:43 am

I guess Nektarine is a wrapper? It seems a step backwards with regard to the Panorama P series.

ChamomileShark · Post by **ChamomileShark** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:45 pm

Well the after touch sensor on my P6 is failing after about 3 years (and out of warrenty) so I must admit I'm less disposed to look to Nektar for when I need a new controller. Also, and it might be just me but attempting to move two sliders or knobs controlling parameters in real time just confuses it.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:51 pm

Maybe this is cheaper version of Panorama, it resembles Impact quite a bit, got myself 61 one for 150, truly bang for the buck, guess this thing will go for cheap too.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:56 pm

zyguli wrote:I guess Nektarine is a wrapper? It seems a step backwards with regard to the Panorama P series.

I can see the advantage being uniform operation in every host rather than a bespoke solution for each compatible host (while it looks like it still has that too for DAW control).

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:25 pm

oh look another controller with just 8 faders and 8 knobs, so much innovation.

Bandaide · Post by **Bandaide** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:06 am

Will give this a look if they've improved their keys.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:47 am

rod_zero wrote:oh look another controller with just 8 faders and 8 knobs, so much innovation.

The Arturia ones have 9 of each but the problem here is many hosts with macro controls like Ableton and Bitwig also conform to the 8 per user page layout, it's become something of a standard (although you can actually add a 9th in Bitwig, I've just not seen anyone using that much in macros). Personally I find around 8 per page OK as I'm used to this for Kore and it breaks any gui down into more easily memorisable chunks, too many controls are harder for me to embed in muscle memory.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:35 pm

News are live on KVR
https://www.kvraudio.com/news/nektar-te ... ards-41799

Pricing and availability (MSRP):

T4 $349.99 US / £279.99 / €349.99.
T6 $399.99 US / £349.99 / €399.99.

Shipping in July 2018.

Not much cheaper than P series, so my cheap theory is wrong.

ilmai · Post by **ilmai** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:01 pm

Well the P4 and P6 are gone from the Nektar website and they're also advertising an improved keybed, so looks like these are replacements for the P series.

http://www.nektartech.com/panorama-t4-t ... oller.html

JJ67 · Post by **JJ67** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:30 am

ilmai wrote:Well the P4 and P6 are gone from the Nektar website and they're also advertising an improved keybed, so looks like these are replacements for the P series.

http://www.nektartech.com/panorama-t4-t ... oller.html

Gone?
They still are listed: http://www.nektartech.com/panorama-p4-p6.html.

ilmai · Post by **ilmai** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:23 pm

JJ67 wrote:Gone?
They still are listed: http://www.nektartech.com/panorama-p4-p6.html.

Wow, either I'm completely blind or their website was different when I last saw it

Still, looks like they might be kinda replacing the P series with the improved keybed & all.

maschinelf · Post by **maschinelf** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:48 pm

With the P series, deep integration is imho best implemented with Reason and Cubase. It doesn't seem like the entire list of premapped vst plugins that work with cubase also work with the other daws that support this functionality, like reaper or bitwig. Some do work but not all. You can create your own mappings but cannot name the pages and also the number of pages is limited. Bitwig can do it on its own but that's not the same thing. So nektarine actually seems like a good thing that addresses this limitation of the P series, provided it's not intrusive or unstable like automap. Would love to see something similar for the P series.

acid alex · Post by **acid alex** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:15 pm

I was considering a T4 but have been offered a P6 for £80 from a friend. The problem I have with P6 is there are quite a few of my VST plugins aren’t listed on their website. Would the T4 with Nektarine be better for me? The P6 is also a bit large for my limited studio space. Which should I go for?

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:11 pm

Zexila wrote:News are live on KVR
https://www.kvraudio.com/news/nektar-te ... ards-41799

Pricing and availability (MSRP):

T4 $349.99 US / £279.99 / €349.99.
T6 $399.99 US / £349.99 / €399.99.

Shipping in July 2018.
Not much cheaper than P series, so my cheap theory is wrong.

Well, my bad, again, P series prices are reduced now, so yeah, T series is cheaper than P initially, so my theory stands.

Nektar Panorama T4/T6 MIDI Controller Keyboards