The elusive "Transformation" setting in MMultiBandGranular
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 648 posts since 20 Jul, 2009
Hi
The transformation setting/parameter in MMBGranular seems like a very interesting and powerful feature (especially having the possibility to edit the graph) but it's also very unclear how it works. All I could found in the manual about it says "Transformation selects the current transformation applied on the grain. You can edit all transformation in the advanced settings window."
So, could anyone explain a little bit how this transformation thing works?
Thanks
The transformation setting/parameter in MMBGranular seems like a very interesting and powerful feature (especially having the possibility to edit the graph) but it's also very unclear how it works. All I could found in the manual about it says "Transformation selects the current transformation applied on the grain. You can edit all transformation in the advanced settings window."
So, could anyone explain a little bit how this transformation thing works?
Thanks
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hi,
it is extremely advanced, so basically it assumes you'd be playing with it . Probably some further docs would be useful though.
Anyway : it works the same as MRhythmizer. X is input time axis, Y is output time axis. So you basically take a grain and transform it in time. So for example "/" graph transforms 0->0, 0.5->0.5, 1->1... so that there's no transformation, in every moment in time the output is taken from the same moment in time. But for example "\" graph transforms 0->1, 0.5->0.5, 1->0, so that in the beginning the output is taken from the end of the grain and vice versa, so you are reversing each grain.
it is extremely advanced, so basically it assumes you'd be playing with it . Probably some further docs would be useful though.
Anyway : it works the same as MRhythmizer. X is input time axis, Y is output time axis. So you basically take a grain and transform it in time. So for example "/" graph transforms 0->0, 0.5->0.5, 1->1... so that there's no transformation, in every moment in time the output is taken from the same moment in time. But for example "\" graph transforms 0->1, 0.5->0.5, 1->0, so that in the beginning the output is taken from the end of the grain and vice versa, so you are reversing each grain.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 648 posts since 20 Jul, 2009
I see. It's a little clearer now.
Thanks a lot Vojtech
Thanks a lot Vojtech
Yes indeed. This transformation tool, although capable of very interesting stuff, is not very intuitive. Maybe a little video tutorial would be even better. Actually a video tutorial covering the entire MMBGranular would be awesome, cause this plugin is certainly not the most intuitive one.MeldaProduction wrote:Probably some further docs would be useful though.
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
Please add this to the documentationMeldaProduction wrote:Hi,
it is extremely advanced, so basically it assumes you'd be playing with it . Probably some further docs would be useful though.
Anyway : it works the same as MRhythmizer. X is input time axis, Y is output time axis. So you basically take a grain and transform it in time. So for example "/" graph transforms 0->0, 0.5->0.5, 1->1... so that there's no transformation, in every moment in time the output is taken from the same moment in time. But for example "\" graph transforms 0->1, 0.5->0.5, 1->0, so that in the beginning the output is taken from the end of the grain and vice versa, so you are reversing each grain.
I had the same big question mark in my face regarding the transformation, now I know, and I say wow!!!!! This is something I'll dig into!
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hehe ok folks , I'll see what I can do .
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Quick and dirty test video with MultibandGranular (also displaying the Transformation feature) after installing version 8.09, using one of my Glockenspiel patches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_PuMirwVtY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_PuMirwVtY
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
I guess dad is too busy making new kids so not every child gets the attention it would deserve. I shall make a tutorial then.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 648 posts since 20 Jul, 2009
Hehe. Dad might use a little help, indeed.Sampleconstruct wrote:I guess dad is too busy making new kids so not every child gets the attention it would deserve. I shall make a tutorial then.
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- KVRian
- 729 posts since 27 May, 2012 from Vermont, USA
Looking forward to it...maybe some presets too!
Sampleconstruct wrote:I guess dad is too busy making new kids so not every child gets the attention it would deserve. I shall make a tutorial then.
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Maybe yes, why not, it's such a complex and capable beast.jc_vt wrote:maybe some presets too!
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Here is a video displaying the Pitch Quantization function in MBandGranular, where you can tune the grains to any given pitches/scales:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc_P4QitQsU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc_P4QitQsU
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Ha! Time to start spreading these!