MStereoExpander different in MXXX?
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1054 posts since 28 Jun, 2006 from Germany
Hi there,
could it be that the MStereoExpander in MXXX acts different? I set up one MStereoExpander in MXXX and nothing else. Then I set up a MStereoExpander in my mixer chain and set up both MStereoExpander with the same values:
If I mute MStereoExpander and activate MXXX I can hear clearly a difference. If I mute MXXX and activate MStereoExpander there is no audible change in the audio signal.
So: does MStereoExpander behaves different inside MXXX?
Thanks for answers!
Edit:
Additional info: the input signal comes in MONO.
could it be that the MStereoExpander in MXXX acts different? I set up one MStereoExpander in MXXX and nothing else. Then I set up a MStereoExpander in my mixer chain and set up both MStereoExpander with the same values:
If I mute MStereoExpander and activate MXXX I can hear clearly a difference. If I mute MXXX and activate MStereoExpander there is no audible change in the audio signal.
So: does MStereoExpander behaves different inside MXXX?
Thanks for answers!
Edit:
Additional info: the input signal comes in MONO.
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- KVRAF
- 10310 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
It looks like it does, yes (here, anyway).
Using the same settings as you and a stereo sample, the meter levels are different:
... Big pic: http://i.imgur.com/7t8THvu.png
And here is a snapshot of MXXX and MStereoExpander in MMultianalyser:
... Big pic: http://i.imgur.com/X5L9OmP.png
Using the same settings as you and a stereo sample, the meter levels are different:
... Big pic: http://i.imgur.com/7t8THvu.png
And here is a snapshot of MXXX and MStereoExpander in MMultianalyser:
... Big pic: http://i.imgur.com/X5L9OmP.png
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Yes they do . That's because the "delay" generator works different way in MXXX - in MStereoExpander plugin it's not very good, but for sake of backward compatibility...
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1054 posts since 28 Jun, 2006 from Germany
I see. And yes, I somehow thought that I liked the MStereoExpander insider MXXX more, haha. ... just good to know. In the end it's no problem for me.
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- KVRAF
- 10310 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
While I understand the importance of backwards compatibility, I would suggest that, if at all possible, the improved delay generator is built into MStereoExpander, with a guideline in the Release notes explaining how to get the "old" sound (should anyone wish to).MeldaProduction wrote:Yes they do . That's because the "delay" generator works different way in MXXX - in MStereoExpander plugin it's not very good, but for sake of backward compatibility...
Or, add a MStereoExpander2 with the improved Delay Generator.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hehe sorry, but that won't happen. MStereoExpander is just the way it is. For good artificial stereo you need to use MStereoSpread, it's unbeatable anyway .