MTurboEQ
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- KVRist
- 66 posts since 19 May, 2007
Okay, so MTurboEQ is here But why there is no edit screen option in it? I think it would be usefull at least for checking the actual response curve. In the current version, it seems to me more like a stripped-down version of the other Melda EQs. What do you think?
Best regards
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Miloslav
Best regards
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Miloslav
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- KVRian
- 1274 posts since 23 Sep, 2008 from Germany
All already discussed.
At the end it´s a Mequalizer with predefined curves, which are Vojtechs secret;-).
What´s difference against all other "emulations", you are able to change stepped frquencies against continuos. So more flexible, like always!
No need for edit page, therefore you can use all of the other meq´s.
At the end it´s a Mequalizer with predefined curves, which are Vojtechs secret;-).
What´s difference against all other "emulations", you are able to change stepped frquencies against continuos. So more flexible, like always!
No need for edit page, therefore you can use all of the other meq´s.
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- KVRist
- 66 posts since 19 May, 2007
Aha, I didn't notice the other thread where the edit screen was discussed. Anyway, in terms of flexibility, MTurboEQ simply doesn't match with MTurboComp or MTurboReverb. I wouldn't have raised any objections if it was named "MVintageEQ" but as it is now it is not "Turbo" at all, sorry...Svama wrote:All already discussed.
At the end it´s a Mequalizer with predefined curves, which are Vojtechs secret;-).
What´s difference against all other "emulations", you are able to change stepped frquencies against continuos. So more flexible, like always!
No need for edit page, therefore you can use all of the other meq´s.
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Miloslav
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- KVRian
- 1274 posts since 23 Sep, 2008 from Germany
I think, this is also not Vojtechs big baby, he did it cause some users asked for.
For me turbo is right, it's fast to set up. The other way you could name mturbocomp, mcomplexcomp;-).
For me turbo is right, it's fast to set up. The other way you could name mturbocomp, mcomplexcomp;-).
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2596 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
I Agree. MVintageEQ would be more fitting.valsolim wrote:Aha, I didn't notice the other thread where the edit screen was discussed. Anyway, in terms of flexibility, MTurboEQ simply doesn't match with MTurboComp or MTurboReverb. I wouldn't have raised any objections if it was named "MVintageEQ" but as it is now it is not "Turbo" at all, sorry...Svama wrote:All already discussed.
At the end it´s a Mequalizer with predefined curves, which are Vojtechs secret;-).
What´s difference against all other "emulations", you are able to change stepped frquencies against continuos. So more flexible, like always!
No need for edit page, therefore you can use all of the other meq´s.
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Miloslav
Vojtech said he cant open up an edit screen because the competition could copy the shapes. Although the shapes have already been copied and lots of companies are copying them lots of time, theres no real secret here.
It would have been nice to have the extra flexibility of making our own curves and interactions and the like.
However I don't want to put down the plugin too much, because it is actually very good and I'm glad we have it in the melda lineup.
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- KVRian
- 625 posts since 19 Mar, 2004 from Copenhagen
Do you use it because of it's convenience or do you think it has a nice sound?
This part of the description of it pretty much made me forget about it:
"There is no doubt, that you could do 99.9999% of the sound of any analog equalizer using a versatile parametric equalizer, such as MAutoDynamicEq. It's just frequencies and curves after all, there's no hidden magic."
The honesty is appreciated but you mention the predefined curves here - shouldn't that give it a sound of it's own?
This part of the description of it pretty much made me forget about it:
"There is no doubt, that you could do 99.9999% of the sound of any analog equalizer using a versatile parametric equalizer, such as MAutoDynamicEq. It's just frequencies and curves after all, there's no hidden magic."
The honesty is appreciated but you mention the predefined curves here - shouldn't that give it a sound of it's own?
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- KVRian
- 1274 posts since 23 Sep, 2008 from Germany
The are no other curves, which are not possible to copy with mautodynamiceq in my opinion, but Vojtech did all the work for you. These eqs often sound musical because of the broad curves. For myself I like the 1073/1081 on drums for example. A ssl is useful on everything and I could mix a whole song with it, if the recording quality is good.
These eqs could be a fast solution.
These eqs could be a fast solution.
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- KVRian
- 625 posts since 19 Mar, 2004 from Copenhagen
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- KVRAF
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
That's correct. It's all about the fact, that the designs have already been copied into the plugin. So if you like deep controls, then it is MAutoDynamicEq. If you like quick results based on old and tested designs, then it is MTurboEQ.
- KVRist
- 298 posts since 26 May, 2016 from Byron Bay, Australia
And don't forget you have combination Eqs that you would normally have to use 2 EQs to get.
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- KVRist
- 243 posts since 17 Sep, 2006
I especially like the air-band of one of the models (can't remember which one it was). However to my ears it sounds like it really only works great in conjunction with at least 2x or even 3x oversampling. Does that make any sense? Vojtech often states that the oversampling in the EQs dont really make a big audible difference. Which frequency is that air band set at? I remember that other developers sometimes set the frequency for the air-band as high as 30kHz or 40kHz - in that case at least 2x oversampling would make a lot of sense, right?
Cheers,
Codex
Cheers,
Codex
- KVRist
- 298 posts since 26 May, 2016 from Byron Bay, Australia
It is the same as the Elosis Air Band. From memory it stars below 10k and is a gradual slope up to 18k and beyond.
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- KVRAF
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Well, oversampling is problematic . I'd personally avoid it unless you really hear the difference. And if you DO, then sure, go for it! I simply want everyone to avoid turning it on just because it is possible.
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- KVRist
- 243 posts since 17 Sep, 2006
At least I THINK I hear it with that airband in MTurboEQ. I'm a psychologist for my main living, so I am very aware how subtle but mighty those expectation effects can be.
I tried to do a quick "blind test" (literally: with closed eyes) and think the airband sounded less harsh with the 3x oversampling. However switching between 1x - 2x and 3x oversampling can't be done with one click so I had to open my eyes to switch, which could already have affected my perception. Maybe I'll do the test again and just load multiple instances of MTurboEQ with a MCompare after it, then I can do real blind-tests.
Cheers,
Codex
I tried to do a quick "blind test" (literally: with closed eyes) and think the airband sounded less harsh with the 3x oversampling. However switching between 1x - 2x and 3x oversampling can't be done with one click so I had to open my eyes to switch, which could already have affected my perception. Maybe I'll do the test again and just load multiple instances of MTurboEQ with a MCompare after it, then I can do real blind-tests.
Cheers,
Codex
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- KVRist
- 168 posts since 7 Dec, 2016
It's very likely that oversampling will affect the highband. HOFA has released a superb free plugin for blind testing It is the first of its kind and randomizes inputs, you can name and rate them.Alphacodex wrote:At least I THINK I hear it with that airband in MTurboEQ. I'm a psychologist for my main living, so I am very aware how subtle but mighty those expectation effects can be.
I tried to do a quick "blind test" (literally: with closed eyes) and think the airband sounded less harsh with the 3x oversampling. However switching between 1x - 2x and 3x oversampling can't be done with one click so I had to open my eyes to switch, which could already have affected my perception. Maybe I'll do the test again and just load multiple instances of MTurboEQ with a MCompare after it, then I can do real blind-tests.
Cheers,
Codex