Jazz/Rock flute sample library--requests?
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- KVRist
- 40 posts since 12 Jan, 2004 from Ellicott City, Maryland USA
Can you make sure that you have articulations that let you play in the 60's/70's style jazz/funk flute format? There are currently no libraries that do this. Some examples are below. Listen to Herbi Mann's "Memphis Underground" on the link below.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/ ... 035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/ ... 035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
If I had a good quote, I would place it right here!
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- KVRer
- 14 posts since 9 Nov, 2006
JAB3 wrote:Can you make sure that you have articulations that let you play in the 60's/70's style jazz/funk flute format? There are currently no libraries that do this. Some examples are below. Listen to Herbi Mann's "Memphis Underground" on the link below.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/ ... 035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
Bela D media's Retro Flute does most of this and has keyswitches to play in real time. Its what i've been using and i like it a lot but i think/hope that Gregg will top it.
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- KVRist
- 40 posts since 12 Jan, 2004 from Ellicott City, Maryland USA
I beg to differ as I also have Bela D media's Retro Flute. It only has a few articulations/keyswitches and does not have the dynamic wide variation of playing techniques like the Herbie Mann examples. However, for the Austin Power's 60's type sounds, yes, you are right. Something about it still doesn't feel quite lively.mellowstu wrote:JAB3 wrote:Can you make sure that you have articulations that let you play in the 60's/70's style jazz/funk flute format? There are currently no libraries that do this. Some examples are below. Listen to Herbi Mann's "Memphis Underground" on the link below.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/ ... 035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
Bela D media's Retro Flute does most of this and has keyswitches to play in real time. Its what i've been using and i like it a lot but i think/hope that Gregg will top it.
If I had a good quote, I would place it right here!
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- angelboy
- 4586 posts since 21 Aug, 2001 from Larnaca, Cyprus
Have you tried the Warp IV flute?JAB3 wrote:Can you make sure that you have articulations that let you play in the 60's/70's style jazz/funk flute format? There are currently no libraries that do this. Some examples are below. Listen to Herbi Mann's "Memphis Underground" on the link below.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/ ... 035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
- "The" Jazz
- Topic Starter
- 4560 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
If you want to hear a quick sneak peek audio from the jazz/rock flute library, I just posted something on the Orange Tree Samples Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/orangetreesamples
Check it out, and become a fan of the OTS page for additional exclusive previews!
Check it out, and become a fan of the OTS page for additional exclusive previews!
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
Orange Tree Samples
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- KVRist
- 40 posts since 9 Dec, 2007
Sounds exciting and promising!
PS. Greg, you make me give up my leisure with glass or two of pina coladas in favor of the flute.
PS. Greg, you make me give up my leisure with glass or two of pina coladas in favor of the flute.
amen.
- "The" Jazz
- Topic Starter
- 4560 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
http://www.orangetreesamples.com/audio/Flutastic.mp3
Let me know what you think--going for a vintage tone by mixing in the room mics with the close ribbon mic. Played this in live through my keyboard (it's really fun and expressive to play!), then went back and tweaked a few things.
Let me know what you think--going for a vintage tone by mixing in the room mics with the close ribbon mic. Played this in live through my keyboard (it's really fun and expressive to play!), then went back and tweaked a few things.
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
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- KVRAF
- 2805 posts since 22 Mar, 2006 from cornwall
That sounds great Greg! Sounds like this library is shaping up nicely!!
There was a small phrase where you played a faster run and the flute sounded a little robotic but we're talking about 1-2 seconds. The rest of it is sounding very convincing!
There was a small phrase where you played a faster run and the flute sounded a little robotic but we're talking about 1-2 seconds. The rest of it is sounding very convincing!
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- angelboy
- 4586 posts since 21 Aug, 2001 from Larnaca, Cyprus
OMG. This cannot be a sample library. Seriously, this is not a real flute? All I can say is "When?!?!?!?"Gregjazz wrote:http://www.orangetreesamples.com/audio/Flutastic.mp3
Let me know what you think--going for a vintage tone by mixing in the room mics with the close ribbon mic. Played this in live through my keyboard (it's really fun and expressive to play!), then went back and tweaked a few things.
PS. Is the vibrato adjustable? I imagine it is, since it is on all your other libraries but just thought I'd ask.
- "The" Jazz
- Topic Starter
- 4560 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
The vibrato is actually completely scripted (modeled after real vibrato), so you can dynamically change the depth and speed.TristezaOrange wrote: PS. Is the vibrato adjustable? I imagine it is, since it is on all your other libraries but just thought I'd ask.
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
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- KVRist
- 40 posts since 9 Dec, 2007
And what about expression control? Does your flute allow to control dynamics with expression pedal (CC11)?
amen.
- "The" Jazz
- Topic Starter
- 4560 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
Yup--you get expression control as well as a separate control to crossfade between the 5 dynamic levels. Of course, you could automate both controls to respond to the same CC #, though I prefer to have separate control over them when I play/sequence.Shramm wrote:And what about expression control? Does your flute allow to control dynamics with expression pedal (CC11)?
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
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- KVRist
- 309 posts since 1 May, 2004
That's a nice sounding instrument. Does it capture some of these articulations?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QHtI838 ... re=related
Ciao!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QHtI838 ... re=related
Ciao!
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- KVRAF
- 2095 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from Nearish Detroit, MI
I believe Rahsaan Roland Kirk pioneered this technique. If you are in the mood for some wacked-out flute-playing techniques (yelling into the flute, playing just the keys like it's a log drum, shoving it into the bell of a saxaphone) to include as special FX in the library, you can check out pretty much any album he's done -- or this one video! (Jump to the 30 second mark)Gregjazz wrote:Yes--you're talking about where you hum while you play? That's on the "definitely sample" list. That articulation is a must for rock flute playing.DocAtlas wrote:Will it have a 'sung-style' articulation? I'm thinking of some Jethro Tull stuff I've heard; I can't think of any specific songs at the moment, but I'm really tired and not thinking too clearly right now. It sounds like an interesting product. (But now it's another library to save up for. And I'm already drooling over MesaWinds and the upcoming acoustic guitar lib. Maybe it's time you made some lousy products I wouldn't be tempted to buy! )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_0UE7wjFYA
GLHF! (Gandalf Lives, Hobbits Forever!)
- "The" Jazz
- Topic Starter
- 4560 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
Beta has been sent out. And now we wait...
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt