Orchestral Jazz
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
I wrote this, on staff paper, a long time ago.
I wrote the midi file using a notation editor, making amendments along the way. This, too, was a long time ago.
I don't have the sample libraries that would be necessary to do it justice. But I thought that, on this its (approximate) tenth anniversary it should at least be heard in some form.
Symmetry in Blue
I wrote the midi file using a notation editor, making amendments along the way. This, too, was a long time ago.
I don't have the sample libraries that would be necessary to do it justice. But I thought that, on this its (approximate) tenth anniversary it should at least be heard in some form.
Symmetry in Blue
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- KVRAF
- 2334 posts since 8 Jul, 2002 from Limerick, Ireland
Listened with an orchestral sound lib. in mind and I imagine this would sound fantastic!
Its a bit 'GM' for me at the moment - but I do like the chords and structure!!! Just not the sound sources...
Hope your not offended Mate I do dig it!
Dave
Its a bit 'GM' for me at the moment - but I do like the chords and structure!!! Just not the sound sources...
Hope your not offended Mate I do dig it!
Dave
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- KVRAF
- 7237 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
Maybe try using non traditional instruments to replace the GM sounds?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Not at all.mckenic wrote:Listened with an orchestral sound lib. in mind and I imagine this would sound fantastic!
Its a bit 'GM' for me at the moment - but I do like the chords and structure!!! Just not the sound sources...
Hope your not offended Mate I do dig it!
Dave
But I would rather record an actual string ensemble playing it.
Especially since, if I decide that I don't like the string ensemble, I am not stuck with it for life due to a non transferable license.
Actually this doesn't use General midi. Just an unorganized bunch of different sound fonts.Amberience wrote:Maybe try using non traditional instruments to replace the GM sounds?
To be honest, even if I had the sample library, I don't have the RAM, or the time to learn how to use it. Fact is, no one wants to pay me to be a composer.
I do make my own music, but it tends to be more rock band oriented, due to the fact that I do have rock musicians handy.
But I am recording a jazz band sometime next month, and I will definitely be giving a copy of this score to them, so who knows?
Thanks for listening guys!
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- KVRAF
- 2081 posts since 8 Apr, 2004
Some of the themes in this were good. though, IMO It lacked dynamics though and fullness.. the piece doesn't develop enough.. The quiet bits need to be quieter and the louder bits louder.. and use more of the orchestra.
soundwise. Try and get hold of SJ orchestra soundfont.. (it's free.. I think Krim has it on a website somewhere, but I can't remember, a search of KVR forums should find it though). It sounds a lot better than the sounds used here.. maybe use some panning and stereo enhancer on the individual instruments (I think it's mono, wider boy would do the job)..
SJ soundfont isn't to big memory wise either.. it works well with sfz too
Ben
soundwise. Try and get hold of SJ orchestra soundfont.. (it's free.. I think Krim has it on a website somewhere, but I can't remember, a search of KVR forums should find it though). It sounds a lot better than the sounds used here.. maybe use some panning and stereo enhancer on the individual instruments (I think it's mono, wider boy would do the job)..
SJ soundfont isn't to big memory wise either.. it works well with sfz too
Ben
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Well, as this took me about 6 months to write, I doubt much of a re-write will be done.Glooper wrote:Some of the themes in this were good. though, IMO It lacked dynamics though and fullness.. the piece doesn't develop enough.. The quiet bits need to be quieter and the louder bits louder.. and use more of the orchestra.
There is a great deal of compositional development going on throughout, though: key changes, thematic alterations and developments, etc.
As for the sj soundfont, I tried it, and the articulations were too slow, as are the articulations on most soundfonts.
I should note that if anyone would like to have a go at a new 'production' of this, I would be happy to send the midi file.
To be honest, (ducks) I really don't enjoy sound design work. I tend to get rather bored when trying to find or make the perfect sound. So a collab with a more sound-design savvy person would be good fun for me.
Thanks for listening.
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- KVRAF
- 2334 posts since 8 Jul, 2002 from Limerick, Ireland
Please do keep us posted on this - both the session & thier work if they do your piece!!!herodotus wrote:But I am recording a jazz band sometime next month, and I will definitely be giving a copy of this score to them, so who knows?
Dave
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Yeah, the guitarist is out of this world.mckenic wrote:Please do keep us posted on this - both the session & thier work if they do your piece!!!herodotus wrote:But I am recording a jazz band sometime next month, and I will definitely be giving a copy of this score to them, so who knows?
Dave
I am trying to convince him to let us make some loops out of his playing, but he has never heard of loops, so he seems sort of suspicious.
In fact, he doesn't even have a computer!
Quaint, huh?
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- KVRian
- 792 posts since 16 May, 2006 from Oswego/Babylon NY
I like this song, very nice I think it would be even more beautiful a tad slower... but that's my opinion.
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- KVRAF
- 2081 posts since 8 Apr, 2004
yeah stuff like this takes a long time...herodotus wrote:Well, as this took me about 6 months to write, I doubt much of a re-write will be done.Glooper wrote:Some of the themes in this were good. though, IMO It lacked dynamics though and fullness.. the piece doesn't develop enough.. The quiet bits need to be quieter and the louder bits louder.. and use more of the orchestra.
There is a great deal of compositional development going on throughout, though: key changes, thematic alterations and developments, etc.
As for the sj soundfont, I tried it, and the articulations were too slow, as are the articulations on most soundfonts.
I should note that if anyone would like to have a go at a new 'production' of this, I would be happy to send the midi file.
To be honest, (ducks) I really don't enjoy sound design work. I tend to get rather bored when trying to find or make the perfect sound. So a collab with a more sound-design savvy person would be good fun for me.
Thanks for listening.
I don't mind having a go. I can stick it through my east/west symphonic.. and see what I can get
Ben
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Sir, that would be awesome!!Glooper wrote:
I don't mind having a go. I can stick it through my east/west symphonic.. and see what I can get
Ben
I will upload the midi file when I get home from work and pm the link to you.
Thanks!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Actually it was even faster before!NotTHeCommonDose wrote:I like this song, very nice I think it would be even more beautiful a tad slower... but that's my opinion.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks!lizards wrote:this stuff really intrigues me but I have no idea how to produce something like this,
I enjoyed the tension and interplay
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- KVRist
- 129 posts since 20 Mar, 2005 from Killeen, TX