I made an arangement of F.Tarrega classical peace "adelita" for 3 metal string acoustic guitars and recorded it 2 ways with mic and via piezo pickup,here they are both, tell me which one you like more(if any)
http://www.desktopmetronome.com/adelita_mic.mp3
http://www.desktopmetronome.com/adelita2.mp3
3 Guitars in a nice melody
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 149 posts since 28 Sep, 2006
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- KVRian
- 1411 posts since 19 Mar, 2004
I like it with pickup rather than the mic - the lead guitar has a fuller sound - more pleasing to my ears.
Beautiful song, nice arrangement, well-played
Cheers,
SWTrex
Beautiful song, nice arrangement, well-played
Cheers,
SWTrex
"Sometimes I think of Abraham...
How one star he saw had been lit for me"
How one star he saw had been lit for me"
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- KVRAF
- 3299 posts since 7 May, 2004 from Athens, Greece
Tarrega with steel strings 
ok dl'ing now
If I go insane, please don't put your wires in my brain
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- KVRAF
- 3299 posts since 7 May, 2004 from Athens, Greece
Miced version! No question about it. Tarrega was one of my childhood heroes (I was classical player from 8 to 15, now I'm 38 btw).
I was really sceptical about the steel strings versions. However the miced one was very nice due to its gypsy-jazz guitar sound. I couldn't stand the piezo version for more than a few seconds. Hair-metal ballads sound.
Your playing is great! Just Shift+Del this piezo version
I was really sceptical about the steel strings versions. However the miced one was very nice due to its gypsy-jazz guitar sound. I couldn't stand the piezo version for more than a few seconds. Hair-metal ballads sound.
Your playing is great! Just Shift+Del this piezo version
If I go insane, please don't put your wires in my brain
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 149 posts since 28 Sep, 2006
@ SWTrex Thanks!! that was fast respond! glad that you like it!
@zeoy Thanks.I'm a Gipsy actually with no internet connection and stuff...only me and my old guitar...hehehe Thanks for nice comment,maybe I do one day a whole CD with Tarega and similar stuff played that way...
@zeoy Thanks.I'm a Gipsy actually with no internet connection and stuff...only me and my old guitar...hehehe Thanks for nice comment,maybe I do one day a whole CD with Tarega and similar stuff played that way...
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- KVRian
- 1020 posts since 4 Jun, 2006
I prefer the mic version, but then I really have a dislike for acoustic guitar pickup sound, I have a old dimarzio that clips in the soundhole for playing live, it doesnt have that nasty 'plik' sound, but I would never record with it. i'd go with zeoy's shift+del option.
Nice playing dude, my fav acoustic guitarist has always been Django, love that Gipsy sound.
Nice playing dude, my fav acoustic guitarist has always been Django, love that Gipsy sound.
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
Cool!
I wote against the "shift+del" advice.
Instead I would mix the two, giving the mic version a dominant role.
The piezo will add some depth and bass to the preformance. (mixed sligtly in the backround like a reverb tail)
I wote against the "shift+del" advice.
Instead I would mix the two, giving the mic version a dominant role.
The piezo will add some depth and bass to the preformance. (mixed sligtly in the backround like a reverb tail)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 149 posts since 28 Sep, 2006
@xtp It was not my intention in any way to sound like django or gypsy guitar but can't hurt..."nasty plik" of piezo is something i realy like...What one find is "nasty" for other is "tasty" and vice versa...that's why call us "humans" 
thanks for comment
@AndrewSimon I tried that already but sounds like shit...maybe becouse playing is not exactly the same in both recordings.Very interesting these midi guitar videos on your site
thanks for comment@AndrewSimon I tried that already but sounds like shit...maybe becouse playing is not exactly the same in both recordings.Very interesting these midi guitar videos on your site
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- KVRAF
- 2991 posts since 22 Dec, 2004
Very nice. I like the piezo pickup better. The mic recording is too powerful in the higher frequencies for me.
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
You should record them at the same time, NOT double tracking!Atza wrote: @AndrewSimon I tried that already but sounds like shit...maybe becouse playing is not exactly the same in both recordings.Very interesting these midi guitar videos on your site
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- KVRAF
- 4907 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
There is a particular harshness in the high mids/ high frequencies noticable quite a bit about 30 seconds into the song on the strong downbeat plucks.
I played around with a simple 1 band parametric EQ and scooped out 10 dB at 9200 Hz with a filter q of 1.3
That's pretty severe and it ruined some of the 'clarity' of the rest of the track. What you should do is use a frequency selective dynamics processor that you can hone in on this region and just tame the peaks in that frequency region. KVRian IIRs has one but I don't know if it's available any longer.
Who knows of a dynamics processor that will leave everything alone but work on this high-mid frequency region?
-Scott
I played around with a simple 1 band parametric EQ and scooped out 10 dB at 9200 Hz with a filter q of 1.3
That's pretty severe and it ruined some of the 'clarity' of the rest of the track. What you should do is use a frequency selective dynamics processor that you can hone in on this region and just tame the peaks in that frequency region. KVRian IIRs has one but I don't know if it's available any longer.
Who knows of a dynamics processor that will leave everything alone but work on this high-mid frequency region?
-Scott
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- KVRAF
- 6741 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
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- KVRAF
- 6741 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Hey, nice playing!
Funny, I was expecting to hate the piezo version because I normally do... but this one actually sounded quite nice. By contrast, I don't think the mic'ed version does the guitar justice.
My suggestion would be to work on improving the mic recordings (either by finding a better position for the mics, or a better sounding room to record in, or both) and use that for the backing parts, then for the lead record both the mic and the pickup and blend them to taste. You may need to flip the polarity of the DI signal, or delay it slightly to match the phase of the mic, but if you get it right I reckon it would sound excellent.
Funny, I was expecting to hate the piezo version because I normally do... but this one actually sounded quite nice. By contrast, I don't think the mic'ed version does the guitar justice.
My suggestion would be to work on improving the mic recordings (either by finding a better position for the mics, or a better sounding room to record in, or both) and use that for the backing parts, then for the lead record both the mic and the pickup and blend them to taste. You may need to flip the polarity of the DI signal, or delay it slightly to match the phase of the mic, but if you get it right I reckon it would sound excellent.
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- AcousticHippie
- 4525 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
or use phasebug for thatIIRs wrote:My suggestion would be to work on improving the mic recordings (either by finding a better position for the mics, or a better sounding room to record in, or both) and use that for the backing parts, then for the lead record both the mic and the pickup and blend them to taste. You may need to flip the polarity of the DI signal, or delay it slightly to match the phase of the mic, but if you get it right I reckon it would sound excellent.
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- KVRAF
- 6741 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
I will have to examine this phasebug at some point, it sounds like it could be useful...
