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layzer · Post by **layzer** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:33 pm

FrantzM wrote: Wow, this is becoming a real team effort.

this could spawn a new kind of contest on KVR, Remastering contest!

i would be interested in hearing Seismic's efforts as well.

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:25 pm

layzer wrote: this could spawn a new kind of contest on KVR, Remastering contest!

i would be interested in hearing Siesmic's efforts as well.

I will definitely post Seismic's master once I get it and keep the original available in case anyone else wants to have a go.

polyslax · Post by **polyslax** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:39 am

I much prefer the redo on the vocal, good stuff!

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:36 am

layzer wrote:
this could spawn a new kind of contest on KVR, Remastering contest!

i would be interested in hearing Seismic's efforts as well.

We already had one of those about 5 months ago

I failed semi-miserably although I learnt from the experience.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:46 am

FrantzM wrote:
Wow, this is becoming a real team effort. I would love to hear what you did with it. I am sure I will learn from it. Perhaps you could PM me a private SoundCloud link with a downloadable file. Thanks very much!

PM coming your way shortly. I'll put the file on kiwi6

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:00 am

polyslax wrote:I much prefer the redo on the vocal, good stuff!

Thanks for giving it another spin!

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:07 am

This is Seismic's superb version. It preserves the character of the original and it makes everything louder and clearer without sounding over-compressed. Fantastic!

Fragile Gods "Vanishing Point" Remastered by Seismic (320kbps / 11.4MB)

http://soundcloud.com/fragilegods/vanishingpoint

If anyone is curious, the original mix can be heard or downloaded here.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:49 am

siesmic's does sound louder and more like the original, good job siesmic!

just to visually see the differences, i shot them all through a spectrum analyzer.....

ORIGINAL

SIESMIC

LAYZER

FISCHERSPOONER - CLOUDS
http://home.comcast.net/~layzer/kvr/vp/clouds.mp3
this is fisherspooner "clouds" anyone familiar with their
music knows they have some of the cleanest, tightest recordings.

the thin red line is the average.
looks about right to me

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:05 am

layzer wrote: just to visually see the differences, i shot them all through a spectrum analyzer.....

Very interesting. Which spectrum analyzer are you using? Does it average the entire track? I am hoping to learn how to do this myself.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:56 am

FrantzM wrote:Which spectrum analyzer are you using? Does it average the entire track?

its by SevenPhases

http://sevenphases.wordpress.com/spectrum-analyzer/

and no, not the entire track. i just snapped a screen shot at the same
dense part of the song.

Moe Shinola · Post by **Moe Shinola** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:19 am

Great song! Seismic's version sounds airy-er and more wispy. Grainier, too. I think that's the general trend among the remasters - a flattening of the sound(more cohesive rather than separate parts, if I'm saying this right) and more brightness.

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:25 am

layzer wrote: and no, not the entire track. i just snapped a screen shot at the same
dense part of the song.

I see. My DAW Samplitude has that built in. I need to start using it more. Thanks.

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:28 am

Moe Shinola wrote:Great song! Seismic's version sounds airy-er and more wispy

Thanks for giving it a listen. Seismic did a terrific job.

seismic1 · Post by **seismic1** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:55 pm

Thanks guys. Glad you liked it, but remember, I had an advantage over layzer. I had two goalposts (Frantz' mix and layzer's master), plus I had the hindsight of reading the various comments on here (especially himalaya's), so I just tweaked three parameters with all of these factors in mind. It was a team effort for sure.

Those spectrum graphs are interesting

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:47 am

it was fun! i dont think there is such a thing as a "perfect" master...
as the perfect master is in the ears of the beholder

Fragile Gods - "Vanishing Point" (remastered by Seismic & layzer)