July Contest: Gossip
- u-he
- 28044 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Does "overseeing the process with the click of a mouse" rule out a self playing patch on a hardware modular synth?
(asking because this would be right up my alley, hehehe)
(asking because this would be right up my alley, hehehe)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2095 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from Nearish Detroit, MI
Go for it! Analog cyborgs are welcome!
GLHF! (Gandalf Lives, Hobbits Forever!)
- KVRian
- 538 posts since 7 Apr, 2007 from Melbourne, Australia
How does playing/triggering notes with the computer keyboard fit in?
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12547 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
I would reckon this is out as it's realtime playing still, and the idea is to program everything (by whatever means) and not actually play it. I'll let the Doc decide though!Atardecer wrote:How does playing/triggering notes with the computer keyboard fit in?
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16368 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
I almost asked the same question, yesterday, but came to the same conclusion as you.donkey tugger wrote:I would reckon this is out as it's realtime playing still, and the idea is to program everything (by whatever means) and not actually play it. I'll let the Doc decide though!Atardecer wrote:How does playing/triggering notes with the computer keyboard fit in?
I wonder if it's cheating to use some kind of instrument to actually help compose the piece.
Also, I used a loop. I didn't use it directly, but processed it, bounced to audio, chopped it up, then entered the notes in by piano roll. I really only mined the loop for the particular hits/sounds. Can I assume that's ok?
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12547 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
I reckon those are ok - you've still got to program what you've played, so in a way it's no different than humming a melody or something - the challenge is in the programming. Since you're only using the hits from the drumloop, I'd say that they're no different from any other drum samples.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:I almost asked the same question, yesterday, but came to the same conclusion as you.donkey tugger wrote:I would reckon this is out as it's realtime playing still, and the idea is to program everything (by whatever means) and not actually play it. I'll let the Doc decide though!Atardecer wrote:How does playing/triggering notes with the computer keyboard fit in?
I wonder if it's cheating to use some kind of instrument to actually help compose the piece.
Also, I used a loop. I didn't use it directly, but processed it, bounced to audio, chopped it up, then entered the notes in by piano roll. I really only mined the loop for the particular hits/sounds. Can I assume that's ok?
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16368 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Thanks for weighing in. I tend to agree, but I still wanted to checkdonkey tugger wrote:I reckon those are ok - you've still got to program what you've played, so in a way it's no different than humming a melody or something - the challenge is in the programming. Since you're only using the hits from the drumloop, I'd say that they're no different from any other drum samples.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:I almost asked the same question, yesterday, but came to the same conclusion as you.donkey tugger wrote:I would reckon this is out as it's realtime playing still, and the idea is to program everything (by whatever means) and not actually play it. I'll let the Doc decide though!Atardecer wrote:How does playing/triggering notes with the computer keyboard fit in?
I wonder if it's cheating to use some kind of instrument to actually help compose the piece.
Also, I used a loop. I didn't use it directly, but processed it, bounced to audio, chopped it up, then entered the notes in by piano roll. I really only mined the loop for the particular hits/sounds. Can I assume that's ok?
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- KVRian
- 726 posts since 13 Jun, 2003 from Shrewsbury, UK
On the last Hair Thieves EP, we had a instrumental track called Ludworth.
That was written without playing (realistically) a note. I think we might have used a controller to turn beatstation on / off / switch groove.
It was our intention to see if we could create a song without playing any instruments.
Drums and bass were a groove from Toontrack's beatstation.
funk guitars were either NI Scarbee funk or midi files from the Cubase media bay.
Pretty much everything else was things in the same key from Cubase media bay.
It was an interesting exercise, in seeing if we could create a song without playing a single note..
That was written without playing (realistically) a note. I think we might have used a controller to turn beatstation on / off / switch groove.
It was our intention to see if we could create a song without playing any instruments.
Drums and bass were a groove from Toontrack's beatstation.
funk guitars were either NI Scarbee funk or midi files from the Cubase media bay.
Pretty much everything else was things in the same key from Cubase media bay.
It was an interesting exercise, in seeing if we could create a song without playing a single note..
Band: http://www.hairthieves.com
Solo Instrumentals : https://sineglidermusic.bandcamp.com/
Synthwave : https://theworryrobots.bandcamp.com/
Solo Indie : https://rollascoc.bandcamp.com/
Post Rock: Coming Soon
Solo Instrumentals : https://sineglidermusic.bandcamp.com/
Synthwave : https://theworryrobots.bandcamp.com/
Solo Indie : https://rollascoc.bandcamp.com/
Post Rock: Coming Soon
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16368 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
The loop didn't fit, so I've started from scratch. So, no issuedonkey tugger wrote:I reckon those are ok - you've still got to program what you've played, so in a way it's no different than humming a melody or something - the challenge is in the programming. Since you're only using the hits from the drumloop, I'd say that they're no different from any other drum samples.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:I almost asked the same question, yesterday, but came to the same conclusion as you.donkey tugger wrote:I would reckon this is out as it's realtime playing still, and the idea is to program everything (by whatever means) and not actually play it. I'll let the Doc decide though!Atardecer wrote:How does playing/triggering notes with the computer keyboard fit in?
I wonder if it's cheating to use some kind of instrument to actually help compose the piece.
Also, I used a loop. I didn't use it directly, but processed it, bounced to audio, chopped it up, then entered the notes in by piano roll. I really only mined the loop for the particular hits/sounds. Can I assume that's ok?
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
- 2830 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
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this was a fun challenge !
. . . now that I've finished, excuse me - I've gotta go WAIL on my Stratocaster . . .
this was a fun challenge !
. . . now that I've finished, excuse me - I've gotta go WAIL on my Stratocaster . . .
expert only on what it feels like to be me
https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/tracks
https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/tracks
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- KVRAF
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Sorry for a stupid question perhaps, but in the rules, "singers" are mentioned.
So is it okay to submit a programmed 80's style pop song (with singing, that is) or is this only an instrumental challenge?
So is it okay to submit a programmed 80's style pop song (with singing, that is) or is this only an instrumental challenge?
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2095 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from Nearish Detroit, MI
Sorry for the late reply! Slicing up a pre-made drum loop to mine the hits and then programming them would be okay. Playing a melody with your computer keyboard in real time is not however as it's basically just using your keyboard as a MIDI controller keyboard at that point.
GLHF! (Gandalf Lives, Hobbits Forever!)
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
- 2830 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
I wondered about that also - is the human voice a "controller" ?SparkySpark wrote:...So is it okay to submit a programmed 80's style pop song (with singing, that is) or is this only an instrumental challenge?
I can see both sides of that
expert only on what it feels like to be me
https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/tracks
https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/tracks
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16368 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Thanks for the clarificationDrApostropheX wrote:Sorry for the late reply! Slicing up a pre-made drum loop to mine the hits and then programming them would be okay. Playing a melody with your computer keyboard in real time is not however as it's basically just using your keyboard as a MIDI controller keyboard at that point.
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- KVRAF
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Okay, perhaps not so stupid then.Mister Natural wrote:I wondered about that also - is the human voice a "controller" ?SparkySpark wrote:...So is it okay to submit a programmed 80's style pop song (with singing, that is) or is this only an instrumental challenge?
I can see both sides of that
A song in the style of Erasure, Kraftwerk, Front, or early DM, that is, with everything programmed except for the vocals, would that be okay?
(If not, then it could perhaps be next month's contest.)
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!