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- KVRist
- 347 posts since 3 Aug, 2004 from Galway,Ireland
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Markleford: How come this tune seems to be les random than other human composed entries? You've accomplished what you set out to do with this track. I like these types of pieces as long as they are short (meaning no disrespect) which is one of the advantages of the competition. I could use this as a bridge between two more conventional pieces in one of my mixes or as an intro. The production is clear and there is a sense of movement from start to finish that balances the apparent lack of structure.
Ixox: Oh no! I don’t know who’s worse you or Col.G. If this one sticks in my head, I’m going to commit myself.
Astinine: Great. Extremely cheesy (of course) but the drums are sharp, the synth have 80’s class but are totally modern in their delivery and the piece keeps it’s energy throughout.. Good Work!
TristezaOrange: It’s original and charming. You know the limit of your voice and use it well. There’s no reason why this song couldn’t have been longer.
SoftEgg: It sounds like Ministry (an old favourite of mine). until the guitar solo which is not necessary. It detracts from the piece. Otherwise it has bucketloads of raw energy that doesn’t grate the ears, which must be a difficult task. Hats Off.
Peppy197: Excellent Piece. There are few places where it dips a little and the ending is curt. But all in all a very interesting collection of sounds, well arranged. On my shortlist
VitaminD: Indeed very heavy. Again I like this type of tune as long as it is short. And not followed by another in a similar vein. The choice of sounds complement the bass and are well executed.
Smart: I was worried until the drums came in, then…..sweet. I would have enjoyed more but since you’re experimenting with shortness. Fair play.
The Peu: Sound Pop sensibilities. Luvly choice of sounds. A very heartwarming piece. Well played.
Be Right Back!!!
Markleford: How come this tune seems to be les random than other human composed entries? You've accomplished what you set out to do with this track. I like these types of pieces as long as they are short (meaning no disrespect) which is one of the advantages of the competition. I could use this as a bridge between two more conventional pieces in one of my mixes or as an intro. The production is clear and there is a sense of movement from start to finish that balances the apparent lack of structure.
Ixox: Oh no! I don’t know who’s worse you or Col.G. If this one sticks in my head, I’m going to commit myself.
Astinine: Great. Extremely cheesy (of course) but the drums are sharp, the synth have 80’s class but are totally modern in their delivery and the piece keeps it’s energy throughout.. Good Work!
TristezaOrange: It’s original and charming. You know the limit of your voice and use it well. There’s no reason why this song couldn’t have been longer.
SoftEgg: It sounds like Ministry (an old favourite of mine). until the guitar solo which is not necessary. It detracts from the piece. Otherwise it has bucketloads of raw energy that doesn’t grate the ears, which must be a difficult task. Hats Off.
Peppy197: Excellent Piece. There are few places where it dips a little and the ending is curt. But all in all a very interesting collection of sounds, well arranged. On my shortlist
VitaminD: Indeed very heavy. Again I like this type of tune as long as it is short. And not followed by another in a similar vein. The choice of sounds complement the bass and are well executed.
Smart: I was worried until the drums came in, then…..sweet. I would have enjoyed more but since you’re experimenting with shortness. Fair play.
The Peu: Sound Pop sensibilities. Luvly choice of sounds. A very heartwarming piece. Well played.
Be Right Back!!!
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- KVRAF
- 6496 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from Frederick, MD
He he. That cracked me up. It's 'cause algo music is made by a program that's designed by a logical thinking programmer, thus algo music is methodical and logical, whereas humans have all kinds of organic kinks in their brains that allow them to randomize even when they don't want to.Techbot wrote:Markleford: How come this tune seems to be les random than other human composed entries?
Or at least that's my take on it. Still cracks me up, though.
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- KVRAF
- 6496 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from Frederick, MD
M'kay, I'm back after 3 days of avoiding music, KVR and most other things in life other than eating, drinking coffee, reading sci-fi novels and generally lazing about.
I've got some thanking to do, I'm glad to say!
Two more #1 Votes!
astanine
kazi
And a bunch more good votes:
Ixox (#2, Danke!)
RichieBee
Beardedone
AndrewSimon
_niko_
Markleford
And one very nice HM
You(tm)
Thank you one and all!
I've got some thanking to do, I'm glad to say!
Two more #1 Votes!
astanine
kazi
And a bunch more good votes:
Ixox (#2, Danke!)
RichieBee
Beardedone
AndrewSimon
_niko_
Markleford
And one very nice HM
You(tm)
Thank you one and all!
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- KVRAF
- 2093 posts since 19 Jun, 2003 from UTM 18 317254E 4295335N (WGS84/NAD83)
I don't enjoy whittling down the choices to vote. There's so many songs I want to endorse... Oh well... I would like to tell you all that over the weekend, we threw a fine canndlelit evening buffet and garden party whilst playing the entire May playlist throughout the affair as background music. The guests were delighted at the variety and quality of songs.
Really, everything sounded pretty good. My top choices keep sliding around - if I keep listening to the songs for another week, my top 10 list will be almost completely different. Also, special thanks to all the reviewers this month. Your thoughtful words have been very helpful and encouraging.
Really, everything sounded pretty good. My top choices keep sliding around - if I keep listening to the songs for another week, my top 10 list will be almost completely different. Also, special thanks to all the reviewers this month. Your thoughtful words have been very helpful and encouraging.
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- KVRAF
- 6496 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from Frederick, MD
Thank you, those are very kind words! This was a monumental undertaking and hearing that people appreciate the effort is reward enough. Each section of this song came out exactly, or even better, than I originally conceived of them, which still amazes me because I was unsure I'd even be able to approximate my original idea. I also learned a hell of a lot in the process.knockman wrote:emdot_ambient – mind boggling concentration, you take the 2 minute time limit and expand it vertically! you create a unique sense of drama – intense but the release at 1:21 is timely otherwise I think I’d not be able to keep up
So, again, thanks to all who have made such kind comments, and especially to those who've been so good as to cast a vote in my direction!
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- KVRist
- 347 posts since 3 Aug, 2004 from Galway,Ireland
FInal page of reviews.
JSL: Has a Burt Bacharach feel to it. Very strange. Was it your intention to nod at the 70’s or is that just how it panned out? Assuming of course you recognise what I hear in the tune.
Rollasoc: Ha! I was waiting for the drums. I just knew they were coming. Brilliant.
Koorby: A fine piece. It appears your not happy with it so I assume you recognise its flaws. Eh…….. I don’t. It’s sounds like a more gentle Top Gun style piece. I don’t particularly like this genre but this is a better example of what it has to offer and has enough going on and some nice changes to keep me listening.
Kazi: Very strong, commanding piece that exudes experience. Shortlisted
JT: I like this, especially it’s opening. The tune is very raw and could do with some eqing. But the effort would be worth it. I think the main lead could be replaced for something more modern perhaps sample based to give it a bit of edge.
I think this is the lot.
I totally enjoyed the reviewing this month. Most if not all had something to offer which made the whole process as much a learning experience for me.
Ps To celebrate not entering this month, my 20th post is in the main music café forum for anyone that’s interested.
Luv
JSL: Has a Burt Bacharach feel to it. Very strange. Was it your intention to nod at the 70’s or is that just how it panned out? Assuming of course you recognise what I hear in the tune.
Rollasoc: Ha! I was waiting for the drums. I just knew they were coming. Brilliant.
Koorby: A fine piece. It appears your not happy with it so I assume you recognise its flaws. Eh…….. I don’t. It’s sounds like a more gentle Top Gun style piece. I don’t particularly like this genre but this is a better example of what it has to offer and has enough going on and some nice changes to keep me listening.
Kazi: Very strong, commanding piece that exudes experience. Shortlisted
JT: I like this, especially it’s opening. The tune is very raw and could do with some eqing. But the effort would be worth it. I think the main lead could be replaced for something more modern perhaps sample based to give it a bit of edge.
I think this is the lot.
I totally enjoyed the reviewing this month. Most if not all had something to offer which made the whole process as much a learning experience for me.
Ps To celebrate not entering this month, my 20th post is in the main music café forum for anyone that’s interested.
Luv
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- KVRAF
- 3066 posts since 31 May, 2002 from My chair
Part of it might be, as you pointed out, "there is a sense of movement from start to finish".Techbot wrote:Markleford: How come this tune seems to be les random than other human composed entries?
Essentially, I am setting up rule-sets for each part, allowing them to have aspirations of being "improvisors". But I, as "conductor" and "arranger", tell them where they are supposed to play and what rule-set to use at any given time. As such, my most important task is to convey that motion over the length of the composition.
That definitely helps human brains from being bored! And I agree, long algorithmic compositions can wind up being ponderous and mind-numbing (heck, so can human-composed long pieces!). Not that they have to be, but sometimes the chin-stroking algo theorists think the math is enough to give a piece significance, while I think that human listenability is THE benchmark for success.
I suppose some human composers are satisfied if they come up with a groove or two that they like and stick them together. That's when people start complaining that it's repetative: when it's the same thing over and over, it does take on the cast of a machine. Whereas my "improvisors" will keep changing within the boundaries they are given. Moreover, each time my piece is played (from the SONAR project) it will sound different because of the random factors involved.
Thanks for the ears and words!
- m
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- KVRian
- 1367 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from Australia
knockman, jsl, koorby, rollasoc, katanaman, vitamin d, techbot, thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
@ knockman: The Cale reference skews this nicely for me. Cale was on my mind not at all here, but I've always thought that the Angel's Death Song, with JC scraping away madly, was the highlight of that banana album.
(I had in mind the early 1800s - strict classical tonality broadening out into romanticism - but I don't think the listener really needs to know that.)
Thanks all.
@ knockman: The Cale reference skews this nicely for me. Cale was on my mind not at all here, but I've always thought that the Angel's Death Song, with JC scraping away madly, was the highlight of that banana album.
Classical harmony has various rules and habits, but they don't have much to do with telling good music from bad. In the end, as with all kinds of music, your ears have the final say.Techbot wrote:I’m sure there are all kinds of rules and things to distinguish a good piece of chamber music from bad, I wouldn’t have a clue.
(I had in mind the early 1800s - strict classical tonality broadening out into romanticism - but I don't think the listener really needs to know that.)
Thanks all.
- KVRAF
- 3265 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
little intermediary bilan:
o'malley, remco, Markleford, thank you so much for the first seed, it's too much of an honour!
Ixox, koorby, knockman, respirator, Barnadine, Richiebee, You™ and astanine, thank you too for the votes, you made my days lately. i gonna tell the good news to my bro'.
cheers
o'malley, remco, Markleford, thank you so much for the first seed, it's too much of an honour!
Ixox, koorby, knockman, respirator, Barnadine, Richiebee, You™ and astanine, thank you too for the votes, you made my days lately. i gonna tell the good news to my bro'.
cheers
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 9647 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
not quite sure.. a couple hoursWopelka wrote:interesting, how many time did it take?VitaminD wrote:heres what I did today.. downloaded all of these on my 56k
actually, i'm going to revert to a 56k as of July and i was wondering whether i'll have to stop my partiticipation to the contest or not...
I use flashget with the firefox flashgot plugin.. all I had to do was go to markleford's kvr page and right click on.. I get an option to flashgot all (download all files linked on the page)
then I just put them all in queue and downloaded one at a time in the flashgot..
when I got about halfway done I started listening and reviewing.. therefore I had enough entries ready to be listened to that I wouldnt have to wait for others to download.
but, yeah, this proves that anyone with 56k or better can download (and thus vote) if they REALLY wanted to.. even if it was the day before voting ends..
in short... you should be fine.. just need a bit more patience but it all still can be done ok.
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- KVRAF
- 6496 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from Frederick, MD
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- The Teach
- Topic Starter
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
less than an hour left to vote ...
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- KVRist
- 127 posts since 11 Jul, 2004 from Hong Kong
Time for a bit of thanking for votes. Thanks go to j_T, rollasoc, rockstar_not, Sepheritoh, M'Snah, Markleford, Techbot and Ixox. Slightly larger thanks go to Glooper and Andrew Simon for the second place votes.
Once again......... Thank you.
Once again......... Thank you.
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
I am not looking at the voting until the results are in. If anyone did vote for me then thanks so much. I will catch you later.
Cheers,
Gordon
Cheers,
Gordon