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Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:45 pm

tconrardy wrote:On another note I wonder if the purpose of this piece was for the audience to actually listen to each other and the ambient sounds of the room, so the actual recording should be the sound the audience makes and any real world sounds going around at the time( trains and cars going by, police sirens,people caughing, dogs yelping, ect) Just another thought on this piece

Yes. That's the idea, at least according to several *hem hem* "scholarly analyses" I've read. ISTR Cage himself referring to such things too. It's very much his way of listening to the world, one I share.

Oh, and don't forget the sounds of lifting and lowering the keyboard cover on the piano.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:48 pm

tconrardy wrote:On another note I wonder if the purpose of this piece was for the audience to actually listen to each other and the ambient sounds of the room, so the actual recording should be the sound the audience makes and any real world sounds going around at the time( trains and cars going by, police sirens,people caughing, dogs yelping, ect) Just another thought on this piece

I think that this has actually been pretty well acknowledged by Cage himself.

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:34 pm

tconrardy wrote:On another note I wonder if the purpose of this piece was for the audience to actually listen to each other and the ambient sounds of the room, so the actual recording should be the sound the audience makes and any real world sounds going around at the time( trains and cars going by, police sirens,people caughing, dogs yelping, ect)

...skunks talking about litigations and mastering...

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:36 pm

Ever wonder what radio astronomers hear when they listen to the echoes of the Big Bang?

cptgone wrote:...skunks talking about litigations and mastering...

*nodnod* Yup. [JimmyStewart] It IS a wonderful life! [/JimmyStewart]

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:38 pm

funkynuts wrote:I,m sorry to say that this is avery poor cover version.You have completely ruined it by using your cheap modern digital equipment.Its definately lacking in terms of warmth compared to the original which used valve equipment and analogue tape to perfectly capture every nuance of the empty stage

Sorry, I took the liberty of using an imaginary piano on a imaginary stage. I didn't use any digital equipment though, you got that wrong.

Hush now - did you hear that?

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:40 pm

cptgone wrote:I didn't use any digital equipment though, you got that wrong.

Ha, caught ya -- how can you play a piano composition without using your fingers? *smug* Even if you don't actually touch the keys.

Q: Dear etiquette authority, should french fries and ketchup be eaten with the fingers?

A: No. The fingers should be eaten separately.

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:44 pm

Meffy wrote:Ha, caught ya -- how can you play a piano composition without using your fingers? *smug* Even if you don't actually touch the keys.

Never said I hadn't. I enjoy fingering you know.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:45 pm

(Note to self: DO NOT ASK who "you know" is!!!)

But your fingers (and toes) are digits. But hey -- at least you didn't say "I played using my nose." :-D

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:46 pm

You know, dead Popes smell funny. Dig-it?

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:52 pm

What? They can't smell at all.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:03 pm

As funny as it is, this thread would probably get you all sued!

funkynuts · Post by **funkynuts** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:04 pm

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:11 pm

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/? ... k_greenman

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:49 pm

Andrew Vernon wrote:http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/? ... k_greenman

That's the article I saw that cued me in to how un-Cage-ian the Cage estate have become.

[...] "the final amount could be tens of thousands of pounds, or more. It turns out it was worth fighting for."

What's "worth fighting for?"

a) artistic freedom?
b) creative expression?
c) the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR (or pound, as the case may be)

If this were an issue of composed music I'd feel a lot different about it. But silence? Oh, really now. Wish I'd had the foresight to copyright the radio hiss heard when no station is tuned in; I'd be a millionaire from suing all broadcasters who don't transmit 24 hours a day!

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:50 pm

I wish I had the foresight to copyright a f**king FART noise! Imagine that... I'd be set for life!!

Live performance of "4:33" (John Cage)