[mully vox done?] Let it happen
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- KVRist
- 181 posts since 10 Jun, 2004
Sorry Mully, I didn't mean to sound offensive. The first thing that hit me when I listened, was your breathing. A crescendo is where a note starts quiet and gets louder. As you profess to be self-taught, I'd say you're doing very well. Keep at it.
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- AcousticHippie
- Topic Starter
- 4525 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
no it didn't sound offensive at all.... I just liked to know.... cuz I honestly rather keep learning than having to use Melodyne.. 
though it's a fun tool... but I'd rather have it as a fun tool instead of a nescessity
and
thanks
though it's a fun tool... but I'd rather have it as a fun tool instead of a nescessityand
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
The bad news first... I prefer the 3-4 year old vocals..
The good news... I think it's just down to your breathing.. You're taking big gulps of air inbetween phrases which means you can deliver the phrases with maximum intensity.
But then, I'm no voice coach.. Hell, I can't sing for toffee. You clearly are a fine singer and songwriter
The good news... I think it's just down to your breathing.. You're taking big gulps of air inbetween phrases which means you can deliver the phrases with maximum intensity.
But then, I'm no voice coach.. Hell, I can't sing for toffee. You clearly are a fine singer and songwriter
Music with dinner is an insult both to the cook and the violinist.
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- KVRian
- 574 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Between Autechre and BoC
KvR server problems again?
Struggling to refresh one page here.......
i'm dl the old one...
for what i've listened so far, it's even better
i can clearly understand the lyrics in this one, compared the one u recorded today.......
The "S" are just a bit too sssibilant...some de-essing will sort that out
Cheers
Struggling to refresh one page here.......
i'm dl the old one...
for what i've listened so far, it's even better
i can clearly understand the lyrics in this one, compared the one u recorded today.......
The "S" are just a bit too sssibilant...some de-essing will sort that out
Cheers
Madness wrote:Quit stuffing around posting dumb questions ..... and get on with making music.
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- AcousticHippie
- Topic Starter
- 4525 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
see I've gotten worsegriels wrote:The bad news first... I prefer the 3-4 year old vocals..
The good news... I think it's just down to your breathing.. You're taking big gulps of air inbetween phrases which means you can deliver the phrases with maximum intensity.
But then, I'm no voice coach.. Hell, I can't sing for toffee. You clearly are a fine singer and songwriter
now where can I learn how to breathe correctly... and no I don't have the money for a real vocal coach nor the social skills to go to a choir
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
Well, not worse per se, you've learnt lots of production skills and mixwise the latest version sounds great.. And the vocals themselves are still a pleasure to listen to.multree wrote: see I've gotten worse
Social skills? You seemed plenty sociable at Micksmultree wrote: now where can I learn how to breathe correctly... and no I don't have the money for a real vocal coach nor the social skills to go to a choir
Anyway, there must be books on vocal techniques around I guess? And Internet resources?
P.S. When you find some good ones, let me know about them
I'd love to sing one tenth as well Music with dinner is an insult both to the cook and the violinist.
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- AcousticHippie
- Topic Starter
- 4525 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
well... I just found out why.... the old version was already compressed and rendered and I lost the original file back then....tommo wrote:KvR server problems again?
Struggling to refresh one page here.......
i'm dl the old one...
for what i've listened so far, it's even better
i can clearly understand the lyrics in this one, compared the one u recorded today.......
The "S" are just a bit too sssibilant...some de-essing will sort that out
Cheers
and now took the same compressor setting as for the new one... so it's compressed twice...
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- AcousticHippie
- Topic Starter
- 4525 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
griels wrote:Social skills? You seemed plenty sociable at Micks
well... yeah... that was different... I'm pretty skilled when I feel secure... although I tend to talk too much when feeling this wayoh and the recording was from 3 or 4 years back, too... only the mix is new.....
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- KVRian
- 1367 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from Australia
Great little song, Mully. I picked the middle version at random, and apart from the left-panning on the vocals, a great arrangement.
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- KVRian
- 574 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Between Autechre and BoC
Ahhh...that's it....multree wrote:
well... I just found out why.... the old version was already compressed and rendered and I lost the original file back then....
and now took the same compressor setting as for the new one... so it's compressed twice...
Anyway....see if these are helpfull (cheap books)
http://www.spartiti.biz/Metodi/descri_met.asp?Ref=83805
http://musicbooksplus.com/bvocal-techni ... -5242.html
http://www.classical.net/music/books/vocal.html
http://musicbooksplus.com/basic-vocal-t ... p-628.html
And not...you're not gettin' worst at singin' Alex
Madness wrote:Quit stuffing around posting dumb questions ..... and get on with making music.
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- AcousticHippie
- Topic Starter
- 4525 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
cool... I just ordered a book at amazon... let's see if it helps
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- AcousticHippie
- Topic Starter
- 4525 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
thanksBarnadine wrote:Great little song, Mully. I picked the middle version at random, and apart from the left-panning on the vocals, a great arrangement.
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- KVRist
- 181 posts since 10 Jun, 2004
Ok, obviously there ain't much coaching that can be done via a forum but the key elements are:
Think of how you're going to sing the line and inhale enough to cover the length of the line and to obtain the sound you want. Eventually, you can do this throughout the whole song with practice but to start with, try individual lines.
Secondly, relax your throat! Don't tense up, worrying about whether you'll be in tune or not, or having enough breath to deliver the line. You're a musician aren't you? The tuning will be much more accurate when you've accomplished the above.
Btw...which instruments are you playing or is it all of them?
Thirdly, don't worry about how long or how many attempts it takes to get the line/phrase right. Your talent hasn't got a time limit so just relax and enjoy it.
Sounds to me like you're already heading in the right direction. The rest will come naturally.
Think of how you're going to sing the line and inhale enough to cover the length of the line and to obtain the sound you want. Eventually, you can do this throughout the whole song with practice but to start with, try individual lines.
Secondly, relax your throat! Don't tense up, worrying about whether you'll be in tune or not, or having enough breath to deliver the line. You're a musician aren't you? The tuning will be much more accurate when you've accomplished the above.
Btw...which instruments are you playing or is it all of them?
Thirdly, don't worry about how long or how many attempts it takes to get the line/phrase right. Your talent hasn't got a time limit so just relax and enjoy it.
Sounds to me like you're already heading in the right direction. The rest will come naturally.
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- AcousticHippie
- Topic Starter
- 4525 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
thanks.... well I play the guitars and the two basslines on this track... the drums were played by my former drummer...
yeah well ...it could be due to the fact that I'm singing this stuff sitting on my bed.... maybe I should change the position to be able to breathe better...
well will try that
and throat relaxing seems to be the most important part.... I know I can do it better - same with guitar playing.... the best takes never get recorded
that's my best excuse so far
yeah well ...it could be due to the fact that I'm singing this stuff sitting on my bed.... maybe I should change the position to be able to breathe better...
well will try that
and throat relaxing seems to be the most important part.... I know I can do it better - same with guitar playing.... the best takes never get recorded
that's my best excuse so far
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
Hi Mully
The one with the Melodyne sounds fine.
Next time don't tell us, just say take A and take B.
I think you will get a less hostile reaction.
As far as the breathing (and I am no singer or have any knowledge in this) it seems that you take a very short, fast and deep breath right at the last split second before starting the new phrase.
This creates an unusual loud breath noise at the beginning of each phrase.
I think if you just let yourself a slightly larger "window" in between phrases it will sound much better.
You just need to finish the last phrase a little earlier.
It's hard to kick these habits, I do something similar when playing solo guitar, but try it and record it, you will like the difference.
Good music as always.
The one with the Melodyne sounds fine.
Next time don't tell us, just say take A and take B.
I think you will get a less hostile reaction.
As far as the breathing (and I am no singer or have any knowledge in this) it seems that you take a very short, fast and deep breath right at the last split second before starting the new phrase.
This creates an unusual loud breath noise at the beginning of each phrase.
I think if you just let yourself a slightly larger "window" in between phrases it will sound much better.
You just need to finish the last phrase a little earlier.
It's hard to kick these habits, I do something similar when playing solo guitar, but try it and record it, you will like the difference.
Good music as always.
