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Winstontaneous
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Postby Winstontaneous; Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:01 pm How to Make Wavetables?

How do I go about making my own wavetables to use in the Wavetable oscillator?
I can import my own one-shot samples (and of course other peoples' premade scannable wavetables) but I'd love to roll my own.

I've searched here and Googled a bit but didn't find a clear answer.

As always, thanks to MadGav for continuing to develop this wonderful, inspiring instrument. Also thanks for getting this forum @ KVR & updating your site--looks like more folks are finding out about this beast!
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peterdh
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Postby peterdh; Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:46 am

If your aiming for (free) software that creates single-cycle waveforms in .wav format...check Wavetable Designer. However it's not on the internet anymore, so PM your email address to me, then I'll send it to you.
You may also wanna check FourCycleSynth and Rndwave!
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Postby Dj Troy; Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:11 am

sorry had to take away links think these are still stuff you have to buy on catwalk site woops!
http://www.galbanum.com/shop/product_in ... ucts_id=46
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Postby Winstontaneous; Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:22 pm

Thanks for the suggestions.

If I am reading them correctly it seems that it's not possible to use a regular audio editor to create a scannable wavetable?
By that I mean a PPG or Waldorf style wavetable, i.e. one that shows up in the Wavetable module's Sample Loader dialogue as containing more than one wave (e.g. "65 waves"), and can be manipulated via the module's wave slider.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something. I guess the broader question is "what info does VAZ need to see in a file to recognize it as a multi-wave wavetable"? Then, what's the best tool to make such a file?

For the record what I'm trying to do is string together a number of unrelated wavs for a compositional effect.

Thanks!
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Postby kingtubby; Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:10 am

Winstontaneous wrote:Thanks for the suggestions.

If I am reading them correctly it seems that it's not possible to use a regular audio editor to create a scannable wavetable?[...]For the record what I'm trying to do is string together a number of unrelated wavs for a compositional effect.


It's fairly easy in Adobe Audition. I just dropped a bunch of waves into the multi-track area and mixed them down to a single file, then opened it in the edit area and divided it up using the 'sampler loops' option in the 'file info' pop-up. I don't know about other audio editors but I would have thought it should be possible.


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Postby mojogigolo; Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:00 pm

if you can find just one wavetable of the right length (256 samples, or a division/multiplication of that), just open it in soundforge, and use the pen tool to alter/ redraw it completely, then save as a new file.
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Postby rectus_dominus; Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:09 am

I'm open for the answers too!
Sorry kingtubby, I don't have Audition, and the way you described it is a bit confusing.
So there isn't any normal way to make a single cycle wavetable with 4 waves in it for scanning?
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Postby whyterabbyt; Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:11 am

rectus_dominus wrote:So there isn't any normal way to make a single cycle wavetable with 4 waves in it for scanning?


what he described sounded normal to me. can you define what you mean by 'normal' here? it cant be done inside Vaz if thats what you mean.
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Postby kingtubby; Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:55 am

rectus_dominus wrote:Sorry kingtubby, I don't have Audition, and the way you described it is a bit confusing.

I wrote that with Audition owners in mind, but any audio editing software that allows you to add/embed loop markers to an audio file should work.

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Andrew Souter
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Postby Andrew Souter; Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:24 am

or check this:

http://galbanum.com/products/architecturewaveforms2010/


:shock:

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Postby apolo; Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:57 am

Wow... 25k wavetables sounds quite interesting...! Good to know they are Absynt compatible...
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EvilDragon
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Postby EvilDragon; Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:21 am

But those are single-cycle waves, right? They are not wavetables in PPG/Waldorf sense of the word. Right, Galbanum?
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Postby Andrew Souter; Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:42 am

DragonSagoth wrote:But those are single-cycle waves, right? They are not wavetables in PPG/Waldorf sense of the word. Right, Galbanum?


Yes, correct.

Interested users could assemble them into multi-waveform wavetables with tools such as Sound Forge etc. if they like.

Maybe I will explore this myself when time allows? Would that be of interest?
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Postby Winstontaneous; Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:28 am

Galbanum wrote:
DragonSagoth wrote:But those are single-cycle waves, right? They are not wavetables in PPG/Waldorf sense of the word. Right, Galbanum?


Yes, correct.

Interested users could assemble them into multi-waveform wavetables with tools such as Sound Forge etc. if they like.

Maybe I will explore this myself when time allows? Would that be of interest?

That would be way groovy, man! :lol:
I downloaded the Galbanum Architecture demo a while ago, cool stuff.
My idea is to make wavetables of fairly dissimilar waves/pitches to experiment with "micro-wave-sequencing" in VAZ.
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Postby EvilDragon; Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:34 am

Galbanum wrote:Maybe I will explore this myself when time allows? Would that be of interest?


Most certainly! I bet lots of Waldorf Blofeld users would hop right on it!
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