The linux DAW thread
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- KVRian
- 508 posts since 9 Feb, 2012
Thank you both for the kind words
I did just do one last release for November, 12.11-5; The only difference is a few cosmetic fixes, and a fix for a crash I discovered last night if the user attempts to edit a region after deleting it... As far as I know, there are no more possible ways to crash it, short of spilling coffee onto your laptop
Stability is a big focus of PyDAW, because I found it lacking in most of the other Linux DAWs that I tried before deciding to write my own. I have some pretty nice automated unit tests that I can use to "drive" the DAW with a script as if a user was interacting with it and even play back an entire project through GDB or Valgrind, but I welcome any and all user bug reports from attempting to crash PyDAW by any means necessary.
I intend for PyDAW and all of it's plugins to be rock-solid and suitable for live use where an embarrassing crash or unintended glitches cannot be tolerated, which is most of the reason why I chose the 'walled garden' approach by providing the DAW and the plugins, rather than being inclusive of 3rd party plugins that I have no control over...
I did just do one last release for November, 12.11-5; The only difference is a few cosmetic fixes, and a fix for a crash I discovered last night if the user attempts to edit a region after deleting it... As far as I know, there are no more possible ways to crash it, short of spilling coffee onto your laptop
Stability is a big focus of PyDAW, because I found it lacking in most of the other Linux DAWs that I tried before deciding to write my own. I have some pretty nice automated unit tests that I can use to "drive" the DAW with a script as if a user was interacting with it and even play back an entire project through GDB or Valgrind, but I welcome any and all user bug reports from attempting to crash PyDAW by any means necessary.
I intend for PyDAW and all of it's plugins to be rock-solid and suitable for live use where an embarrassing crash or unintended glitches cannot be tolerated, which is most of the reason why I chose the 'walled garden' approach by providing the DAW and the plugins, rather than being inclusive of 3rd party plugins that I have no control over...
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I tried installing PyDaw, but I have a 32 bit system, and it wasn't
happy with the debian 64 bit package. Is a 32 bit version in the works?
I was able to find the older plugin suite, look forward to trying them this week.
For a moment there, I thought you were Heff Hoogland, of Bodhi linux.
Cheers
happy with the debian 64 bit package. Is a 32 bit version in the works?
I was able to find the older plugin suite, look forward to trying them this week.
For a moment there, I thought you were Heff Hoogland, of Bodhi linux.
Cheers
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- KVRian
- 508 posts since 9 Feb, 2012
Which OS are you running, and what version number? I've provided 32 & 64 bit packages for Ubuntu 12.04, but I'm currently only providing 64 bit packages for Ubuntu 12.10 because 12.10 has been a bit problematic(in many ways)... However, the 32 bit packages for Ubuntu 12.04 will probably work in 32 bit Ubuntu 12.10.glokraw wrote:I tried installing PyDaw, but I have a 32 bit system, and it wasn't
happy with the debian 64 bit package. Is a 32 bit version in the works?
If you're running Debian or a derivative like AV Linux, the packages probably won't work due to being compiled with Ubuntu's much newer versions of GCC and GLibc. If so, let me know and I'll either provide some instructions for how to compile it or possibly spin a package for you...
I provided Ubuntu packages because that covers over 50% of Linux users, but being that I wrote the all of the plugins entirely between January and August of this year, and then I wrote PyDAW in less than 3 months, there wasn't really time in there to test them all in every distro, LOL...
I'd definitely recommend the latest release, from a stability standpoint. I'm not sure if you're referring to the plugins before the project was renamed to 'PyDAW', or just an earlier verison of PyDAW, but the latest version is very stable and has all of the newer features I've added. There are also a few fixes to the plugins...glokraw wrote: I was able to find the older plugin suite, look forward to trying them this week.
glokraw wrote:For a moment there, I thought you were Heff Hoogland, of Bodhi linux.
Cheers
Nope, I'm not Jeff Hoogland, although I used to be a big fan of Enlightment e17 and once considered rolling my own distro based on it
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Hi, I was using a Ubuntu 12.04 clone, and now have the correct package
to install. I spent some time using Ray_V synthesizer, and I like
the numeric display, and knobs that receive clicks, as well as turns.
This reduces hand fatigue, and speeds up experiments, and in my case,
the sound design learning curve. The numeric parameters on view allows
one to remember favorite settings with precision.
Creating an ARM based E17 pyDAW distro would be awesome, and your
emphasis on live stability and midi precision would be welcome
among the musicians trying to rely on virtual instruments on stage.
Cheers
to install. I spent some time using Ray_V synthesizer, and I like
the numeric display, and knobs that receive clicks, as well as turns.
This reduces hand fatigue, and speeds up experiments, and in my case,
the sound design learning curve. The numeric parameters on view allows
one to remember favorite settings with precision.
Creating an ARM based E17 pyDAW distro would be awesome, and your
emphasis on live stability and midi precision would be welcome
among the musicians trying to rely on virtual instruments on stage.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
The Ray_V presets file, is there a list of the synth parameters as readjeffh wrote:There are also a few fixes to the plugins...
from left to right in its textfile? If so, a dummy preset with abbreviations
for the controls could be whipped up spreadsheet style, handy when adjusting a
nice pad preset to a lead, or other easy sound mods
I removed the older lms versions, ran dpkg -i pydaw to see all the dependencies,
and installed them with synaptic, held my breath and rebooted. All went well.
Now a working pydaw is at home. Something autostarts jackdbus and a2jmidid,
so for nonaudio sessions, I nuke them with taskmanager.
'buntu never promised me a rosegarden
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7
http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/google-nexus-7-teardown/
Linux tablet support may be slow in coming, but you have to start somewhere.
Bodhi linux will be there soon.
Cheers
http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/google-nexus-7-teardown/
Linux tablet support may be slow in coming, but you have to start somewhere.
Bodhi linux will be there soon.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
qtractor DAW gets another update
quick start guide & user manual:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/qtract ... manual.pdf
http://www.rncbc.org Also, synth sampler and drum sampler are updated
recently.
Guitarix now has LV2 plugins derived from its code, and an update,
Ingen modular synth gets CV plugins, Harrison Mixbus is no-brainer $40
at http://www.harrisonconsoles.com/mixbus/ ... chase.html
The LinuxDSP plugin suite is marked down, when purchased with Mixbus.
The Drone project of Luigi Verona hits the 200 mark, the stressed or
sleepless, should find some nice lullaby there.
And the 'Pro audio OT Rant' topic rolls on at the maillist, gathering moss,
floss, and diverse opinions:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-audio-users/
My humble dust-bowl computer keeps chugging along with
Studio4, PCLinuxOS, Macpup, Dpup Exprimo, and newcomer WattOS.
All very musical, and vst friendly.
Cheers
quick start guide & user manual:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/qtract ... manual.pdf
http://www.rncbc.org Also, synth sampler and drum sampler are updated
recently.
Guitarix now has LV2 plugins derived from its code, and an update,
Ingen modular synth gets CV plugins, Harrison Mixbus is no-brainer $40
at http://www.harrisonconsoles.com/mixbus/ ... chase.html
The LinuxDSP plugin suite is marked down, when purchased with Mixbus.
The Drone project of Luigi Verona hits the 200 mark, the stressed or
sleepless, should find some nice lullaby there.
And the 'Pro audio OT Rant' topic rolls on at the maillist, gathering moss,
floss, and diverse opinions:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-audio-users/
My humble dust-bowl computer keeps chugging along with
Studio4, PCLinuxOS, Macpup, Dpup Exprimo, and newcomer WattOS.
All very musical, and vst friendly.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
There is now a Puppy linux based on Arch Linux, able to use the
Arch linux Pacman package manager, and repos. In short, this makes for
much easier access to the latest audio apps in Puppy, most of which require
someone to build .pet, or .sfs files, containing them.
I installed ArchPup on a usbstick, and was able to install wine and qjackctl
from .pet and .sfs, and then drag/drop folders for Reaper, U-he /Steinberg/VstPlugins, into
.wine/drive_c/Program Files.
Dropped wineasio.dll into /usr/lib/wine, ran command
regsvr32 wineasio.dll
started qjackctl and reaper, set the asio, midi, and vstprefs for reaper,
and fired up U-he Diva, Tyrell6, ZebraCM, and Bazille for a quick test,
then made a Reaper recording to the windows partition.
This looks to be very promising barebones linux, iso is still under 100 meg,
with separate .sfs (squash file system) files for popular apps, and dev packages.
Pacman is very easy to use for installing apps, with a large support repository
for user favorite, and bleeding edge versions.
Cheers
Arch linux Pacman package manager, and repos. In short, this makes for
much easier access to the latest audio apps in Puppy, most of which require
someone to build .pet, or .sfs files, containing them.
I installed ArchPup on a usbstick, and was able to install wine and qjackctl
from .pet and .sfs, and then drag/drop folders for Reaper, U-he /Steinberg/VstPlugins, into
.wine/drive_c/Program Files.
Dropped wineasio.dll into /usr/lib/wine, ran command
regsvr32 wineasio.dll
started qjackctl and reaper, set the asio, midi, and vstprefs for reaper,
and fired up U-he Diva, Tyrell6, ZebraCM, and Bazille for a quick test,
then made a Reaper recording to the windows partition.
This looks to be very promising barebones linux, iso is still under 100 meg,
with separate .sfs (squash file system) files for popular apps, and dev packages.
Pacman is very easy to use for installing apps, with a large support repository
for user favorite, and bleeding edge versions.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/
jam-kde is the Fedora (poor-mans Red Hat)audio linux variant.
The .iso is 2gig, and has the most important linux audio apps,
probably very current versions.
unetbootin, either windows or linux version, should install the iso
to a usbstick, then boot the stick from computers early-boot menu.
Cheers
Love the smell of a Fedora Linux door-stop manual in the morning.
(well, maybe not quite as much as bacon )
jam-kde is the Fedora (poor-mans Red Hat)audio linux variant.
The .iso is 2gig, and has the most important linux audio apps,
probably very current versions.
unetbootin, either windows or linux version, should install the iso
to a usbstick, then boot the stick from computers early-boot menu.
Cheers
Love the smell of a Fedora Linux door-stop manual in the morning.
(well, maybe not quite as much as bacon )
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
http://www.getstudio1337.com/new-studio ... -protools/
A comparison checklist, new Studio 1337, Vs Pro Tools.
Obviously commercially biased, as all ads are,
but you don't pay for a magazine, to read it.
In reality, Studio 1337, keeps getting better, a band could use it live,
in an old laptop, saving their shiny i5/7/MBP for the studio,
safe from thieves and roadie klutzes.
People on 'the other side of the tracks', can experience
high productivity, and still eat some babybacks on Friday Night.
Students can bring their DAW to school.
Teachers can bring their DAW home.
Holiday travelers can produce while away from home, again,
not risking an expensive laptop. Or get Granny an old P4,
and boot you DAW when your team is getting trounced, on
Thanksgiving/New Years, Stanley Cup etc.
Its the portable inspiration catcher
Don' leave home, without it.
Cheers
A comparison checklist, new Studio 1337, Vs Pro Tools.
Obviously commercially biased, as all ads are,
but you don't pay for a magazine, to read it.
In reality, Studio 1337, keeps getting better, a band could use it live,
in an old laptop, saving their shiny i5/7/MBP for the studio,
safe from thieves and roadie klutzes.
People on 'the other side of the tracks', can experience
high productivity, and still eat some babybacks on Friday Night.
Students can bring their DAW to school.
Teachers can bring their DAW home.
Holiday travelers can produce while away from home, again,
not risking an expensive laptop. Or get Granny an old P4,
and boot you DAW when your team is getting trounced, on
Thanksgiving/New Years, Stanley Cup etc.
Its the portable inspiration catcher
Don' leave home, without it.
Cheers
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- KVRist
- 292 posts since 25 Jun, 2012 from Earth
Only Zyn and QSynth? What about WhySynth, AmSynth, XSynth, WSynth, Triceratops, monosynth, Phasex, SynthV1...?
Also:
It seems to me that a processor reads data from the hd MUCH faster than from RAM. In music performance this would seem a critical issue. -Your thoughts?
brian
Also:
It seems to me that a processor reads data from the hd MUCH faster than from RAM. In music performance this would seem a critical issue. -Your thoughts?
brian
Tired of Windows? Linux offers hundreds of good distros. For more info:
DistroWatch
Some good synths for linux: www.linuxsynths.com
DistroWatch
Some good synths for linux: www.linuxsynths.com
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Hi. I think a large benefit comes from the entire OS being in ram, running RT,briandc wrote:Only Zyn and QSynth? What about WhySynth, AmSynth, XSynth, WSynth, Triceratops, monosynth, Phasex, SynthV1...?
Also:
It seems to me that a processor reads data from the hd MUCH faster than from RAM. In music performance this would seem a critical issue. -Your thoughts?
brian
and optimized not to slap itself silly.
As for the software selection, I think this release was intended more for
vst users wanting wine and qjackctl ready to work together in linux, without
configuration issues, so the customer can make a Steinberg/VstPlugins folder,
and copy over the vst collection, and a reaper folder.
Cheers
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- KVRist
- 292 posts since 25 Jun, 2012 from Earth
Sorry bout that! I actually forgot about VSTs and Windows-based synths!glokraw wrote:Hi. I think a large benefit comes from the entire OS being in ram, running RT,briandc wrote:Only Zyn and QSynth? What about WhySynth, AmSynth, XSynth, WSynth, Triceratops, monosynth, Phasex, SynthV1...?
Also:
It seems to me that a processor reads data from the hd MUCH faster than from RAM. In music performance this would seem a critical issue. -Your thoughts?
brian
and optimized not to slap itself silly.
As for the software selection, I think this release was intended more for
vst users wanting wine and qjackctl ready to work together in linux, without
configuration issues, so the customer can make a Steinberg/VstPlugins folder,
and copy over the vst collection, and a reaper folder.
Cheers
brian
Tired of Windows? Linux offers hundreds of good distros. For more info:
DistroWatch
Some good synths for linux: www.linuxsynths.com
DistroWatch
Some good synths for linux: www.linuxsynths.com
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
http://amsynth.com/zynaddsubfx.html
Nice website you're building, great for visuals on linux synths!
'tain't 2002 noh moh'
Who did the new skin for zynaddsubfx? Very nicely done
Nice website you're building, great for visuals on linux synths!
'tain't 2002 noh moh'
Who did the new skin for zynaddsubfx? Very nicely done