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codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:05 pm

Check out this version:
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/linux-u ... s-out-now/

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Perfect Multi-Boot
Unlocking the secrets of GRUB 2.00 to boot multiple distros on your PC
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Slightly off topic maybe.
Forgive me.

cheers.

codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:48 pm

To lead on from and resonate with that last post of mine:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=360902

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/backup-strategy.html

My backup strategy.

Even experts need to read this.

rockstar_not · Post by **rockstar_not** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:04 am

I see some others have mentioned Easus.

Easus saved my tail. I had a hard drive failing with some bad sectors. Bought a new drive that came with a free version of Acronis. Acronis would stop the disc imaging process as soon as it saw a bad sector. Dead in it's tracks.

Easus Disc Copy home edition (the free one) saw the bad sectors and powered through, continuing the image process.

Once I got the disc copied and swapped, I used Easus Partition Master home edition to re-partition the copied drive.

Both are free to download and use for home use. Neither are backup programs like the todo backup.

-Scott

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:54 pm

Oh-kay...
I'm used to Norton Ghost, from old IT days. Served me excellent through the years, and if my old XP image went "boom", I could easily roll back.

So I thought "let's install Win 7 64bit, then do a backup with Ghost 8, mess with the system, roll back". Said and done - only to realise that Ghost 8 does not work and the OS won't boot (due to an error message like "drive can't boot" or something). I tried to repair the boot manager with the Win7 64bit install disk to no avail.

I'm currently looking for a free/affordable solution where I can boost into DOS (or WinPE), and roll back from an image I made of my boot drive, and saved (outsourced) on my recording drive or even Blu-Ray disk. I do not need to do regular or automatic backups, only a savety image once in a while if I want to test new tools.

But the Ghost tool needs to be able to compress the ghosted image. Ghost 8 was kind enough to compress a clean install of Win7 (non optimized, speak with huge hybernation and page file) with NVidia drivers, ASUS drivers, RME drivers, SP1, OS maintenance updates, DaemonTools, my printer and Firefox into barely 7,6GB - which fits on a DL-DVD.

I took a dive in this thread, and there are tons of mentions. But none of them tell me if I can clone/backup my boot HDD into an image and the other way around. Especially if it's a 64bit OS, or a dual boot system like Linux/Windows or Hackintosh/Windows.

A couple of pages back, codec_spurt mentioned the HIREN Boot CD.

I don't have a CD burning tool at hand at the moment, but I like the idea to have a boot disk with ghost tools on it already. Maybe even a partition tool that's just as good as old Symantec.

Then codec_spurt mentioned Macrium Reflect, which seems to come with a PE disk. So this means, I boot into a windows drive, and use a visual tool like Norton (ghost) and Symantec (drive image). But I also need to burn it first. But if I read it right, compressing the image is not really that great.

Everything else is out of the question for me unfortunately. I like to switch drives, even though my main used ones are WD and Samsung (Seagate HDD branch)/Seagate.

Is Macrium Reflect the tool I'm looking for?
To be honest, I can't get used to the Windows built in system. And I don't trust it either to be honest. If my rig goes boom, I want to be on the save side.

flugel45 · Post by **flugel45** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:08 pm

Compyfox,

Take a look at Paragon Backup and Recovery (They have a free version).

I was a longtime Acronis True Image user, until I upgraded to Win7x64 and the version I had wasn't compatible anymore.

I stumbled onto Paragon's utility, and was amazed how full-featured it was for a free version. Been using it for two years - backing up and restoring images from a boot disk - without a single problem.

I should mention that shortly after I got it, Paragon "changed" some things on the free version (apparently they realized they gave too much away).... But it's still a worthwhile tool - especially for being free.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:10 pm

Apparently, only the "Home" (paid) version comes with PE, everything else need to be done within an already installed Windows environment.

I was more looking for a tool that I do not(!) need to install, which makes the HIREN boot CD even more attactive (since it's OS independent). And if I go by the HIREN page (and one of their fanpages (ends with org, even insists on offering legit copies), you can even boot from an USB stick, which is great for such purposes. I have a spare 1gig one lying around, might as well give it a shot.

Though I barely ever need 5% of this disk. If I could slim it down prior to USB installation, it'd be even better.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:55 pm

O-kay... I tested Macrium Reflect this afternoon, and I'm... well... I'm both positive surprised and major dissapointed.

In terms of positive surpised:
The features - compared to old Norton Ghost, it asks me what to do, if I want to check the image and if I want to store the MBR as well, in terms of restoring, it even does correct MBR resoring.

It's also simple to use (dumbed down), though it needs a Windows PE environment (HIREN BootCD offers that thankfully).

Now the negative sideeffects:
- it's friggin slow. Creating a backup from my 160GB boot drive, including verification, took me 1:20h. Rolling back almost one hour (but this gave me the confirmation, that the ghost tool works like it should)
- the compression is sh*t. Norton Ghost compressed 40-50GB of HDD content (OS, hosts, graphic and office tools) down to about 8GB. Macrium compressed just the OS with 35GB (non optimized) and a handful of installed drivers down to 97GB! So it seems to create a full image and doesn't discart the free space. This is a waste of HDD space IMO.

I don't think that I did much wrong while creating an image - but this is definitely a turnoff. Someone can maybe offer some hints in terms of optimizing things?

Thanks.

Guenon · Post by **Guenon** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:43 pm

Compyfox wrote:it's friggin slow. Creating a backup from my 160GB boot drive, including verification, took me 1:20h. Rolling back almost one hour (but this gave me the confirmation, that the ghost tool works like it should)
- the compression is sh*t. Norton Ghost compressed 40-50GB of HDD content (OS, hosts, graphic and office tools) down to about 8GB. Macrium compressed just the OS with 35GB (non optimized) and a handful of installed drivers down to 97GB! So it seems to create a full image and doesn't discart the free space. This is a waste of HDD space IMO.

There's something wrong; don't know what exactly, though

For a comparison, Macrium handles my 100 GB boot partition in about 8 minutes, with verification, and the image takes around 20 GB.

Maybe email Macrium and ask what's up?

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:13 pm

Actually, I know what I did wrong in the first place (actually, not wrong, but this ate a lot of HDD space).

I made a full clone (which also copied the empty space), not an intelligent sector copy (which indeed only eats 12GB on heavy compression, with a 30GB installation). This took 1,5hours on saving, and 1h on backing up. With the intelligent mode, it only took a fraction and worked just as well.

Tested it earlier this day and I've made two backups so far. I'm currently running on "low profile", no hosts installed. But my Win7 copy is running like it should. And if I do a mistake, I can easily roll back now.

Pinocchio · Post by **Pinocchio** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:36 pm

http://disk-imaging-software-review.toptenreviews.com/

HM · Post by HM » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:22 pm

Hi

I do a new W7-64 DAW/Video-rig, and need a good back-up solution from start !

System: Z77/3770K, boot drive C: is a Samsung 830 (256)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

There will be various other drives, a big HDD for huge sample-libs using a Intel 330 60 GB SSD as cache using "smart response", and one Raid-0 vol to
be based on two fast new one-platter Baracudas, and a single audio HDD,...

For the simplicity I have decided all those other "non-os" drives will be
backed simply to other HDD's using USB3, Sata hot-swap, or some clone-box

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now I "just" need to decide for a image-software for my C: drive, from a
very time-consuming and tiresom reading here

I am finally leaning towards Macrium Reflect Free ,.. so please stop me if I am gone wrong

Just downloaded it, and have been looking on their site for a manual with
no succes, so far I have some general questions:

1. If my Samsung 830 dies, can I use ANY other SSD/HDD ? also a smaller ?
2. Should I expect no troubles with Windows protections etc (W7-64 retail)
3. Will software from IK, Waves, S1, PSP, etc still work with no probs ?
4. As I install W7 seemingly a small extra patition is made, is that a prob ?

Thanks in advance for any help !!!

OT: on a sidenote I want to secure my self against Motherboard dieing as
well, and want simply to have a spare-MB, but heard that windows is "tied"
to the specific motherboard, does that mean that I am not even able to
use a 100 pct identical spare-MB for a quick rebuild ?

codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:34 pm

I just came across this, and it's not free, but it is cheap and it looks interesting.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

There is a 30 day free trial. I won't be testing this as I am very happy with my Easus ToDo solution. It's version 3.5 you want if you can find it, but they don't officially do free versions anymore, they aren't very good anyway, they had to spoil a good thing - when you reach perfection there is only one way to go. I believe it it still possible to find a copy of it somewhere legally for download. It is fast and robust. You get to make a startup cd if your system goes down and I have used it several times and it works perfectly.

I will be checking the version for backing up Linux out though. I use ReDo for my Linux images usually, but unfortunately it does not restore an image to a partition - bummer! So, there aren't that many easy options to back up Linux and I'm scared to use the DD command and also Clonezilla frightens me. I'm sure they are easy enough once you get to know them and if you have all your other partitions backed up then you are safe enough, but it was such hassle for a noob like me to set up a dual booting Win/Linux machine, not to mention time consuming.

So, I found this:
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-linux.htm

It comes with a gui so that's good. A 30 day trial is enough for me to find out how quick it is and if it restores to partitions. I'm not aware of any Linux imaging software that has a GUI apart from this and ReDo, off the top of my head. Free or low cost anyway.

And talking of cost, this seems an absolute bargain if you buy the bundle which comes with Bare Metal - an easy to use multi-boot solution for your computer:

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-bare-metal.htm

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/purcha ... -metal.htm

If the imaging solution for Linux is any good, I'll try out the Windows version as well if it is similar, because it comes with the bundle which costs 50 dollars - Linux, Windows, DOS and dual booting all included in the price.

You can buy a license to use on up to 3 machines for personal use for 30 dollars anyway. That is for the Linux solution alone btw, the Windows one costs a bit more at 39 dollars.

So for someone like me that would use the imaging solution for windows and linux, plus the dual booting software, this is an absolute bargain. I think it is still pretty reasonable though for either standalone linux or windows backup, if it is any good that is. I know that the dual booting software is because I used an older version of it to dual boot 98/XP, and it was quick, logical and robust, so I expect nothing less from the latest version. But lets see how it handles Linux as well before we get too excited. Grub is a bit arcane, but it is working well for me on a couple of machines (I have an older XP laptop that I am dual booting with a pure Debian Expert install as well).

I'll let you know how I get on as I need to do an image of my Linux Mint Debian that I have dual booting on my Win7 machine. This might just be the software I'm looking for.

cheers.

minisu · Post by **minisu** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:13 am

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I recommend a good partition software. That is MiniTool Partition Wizard!http://partitionwizard.com/partitionmagic/ (http://partitionwizard.com/partitionmagic/)

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:01 pm

https://windowssecrets.com/top-story/bu ... afety-net/

All you need is Winders. But be careful if you have an older SSD (Ghost has had troubles with SDs)...

https://windowssecrets.com/langalist-pl ... e-backups/

Patrice Brousseau · Post by **Patrice Brousseau** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:36 pm

codec_spurt wrote:I just came across this, and it's not free, but it is cheap and it looks interesting.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

I use this one since around ten years without a hitch. I bought once and all the updates were free...

You can backup inside Win7 x64 or outside from another partition (boot), from a floppy or from a CD.

I use it also to backup my Bootcamp partition on my MBP.

Patrice

Recommend a good free Ghost program.