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Patrice Brousseau wrote:
codec_spurt wrote:I just came across this, and it's not free, but it is cheap and it looks interesting.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm
I use this one since around ten years without a hitch. I bought once and all the updates were free...

You can backup inside Win7 x64 or outside from another partition (boot), from a floppy or from a CD.

I use it also to backup my Bootcamp partition on my MBP.

Patrice
Apparently it's got a small but very dedicated following, as I have been finding out the more I get to know about it.

This is the best imaging/cloning/backup software I have ever used. Bar none. I've used Acronis, Macrium Reflect, Paragon, EaseUS Todo, DriveImageXML, Drive Snapshot, plus a few others that escape me now.

But then again, I'm no expert. So why not check out what other people are saying about it:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ ... me.278397/
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ ... ws.362725/
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ ... ad.305838/

First off, it's not free. It costs about £23 or $39 for Image for Windows
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

This includes Image for Dos and Image for Linux as well. And you have a license to use it on up to 3 computers as I understand it.

I am going to buy the bundled version of it though with Bootit BareMetal which is a Boot Manager and Partitioning Tool and usually costs about the same.
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-bare-metal.htm

But you can get them both for about $50 or a bit less than £30, plus you get TBOSDT Pro thrown in for free as well, which costs about $15 or £9 if you buy it by itself. So the bundle is less than half the price of the included tools. More than worth it.

TBOSDT Pro contains a set of powerful utilities that, among other things, will help you deploy Windows to completely different hardware.


In use this program is very fast. There are scores of options to choose from but if you just want to select the defaults like I have done then you won't have any problems.

If you just want a program for backing up your windows then you would probably be better off saving the money and just downloading Macrium Reflect for free:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-fr ... tion_Guide

But if you need to back up any linux stuff whether that be partitions on your physical hard disk or on usb sticks or even SD cards, then this program is more than worth the money. I don't know of anything that does what this does with such ease and flexibility. You can back up your linux boot disks (including usb and SD) from directly within windows and you don't even have to stop working because it uses the shadow volume services to keep on using your system.

But the best part is the fact that it sees EVERYTHING. Stuff that just isn't there in windows suddenly becomes visible. And when you have made your backup image, you have 2 included programs to view and mount it, again, all within windows. So if you, like me, downloaded some stuff to a usb stick that contained a linux distro like Mint, you don't have to shut down the computer, boot up a slow usb drive and go to all the trouble of finding it and saving it and then restarting the system again. You just mount the image and extract the files from within windows.

This program has so many ingenious features I don't know where to begin. One of the ones that has me the most excited is this:

Hardware Independent Restore - Restore Windows to completely different hardware and then use the TeraByte OSD Tool Suite to install the drivers required to support the new hardware.

I am really hoping that this will help me in my search for the holy grail in virtualisation, which is to turn all those old True Image (or whatever) backups into a working Virtual Machine which can be accessed from within Windows 7. The older programs don't support creating a .vhd file so you have to go the long way round. Newer versions of Acronis do however support it but that is no good to me.

http://windowssecrets.com/forums/showth ... irtual-Box


Apart from this I am hoping it will ease my transition to putting in a SSD into my laptop. I will move the main HD to a caddy in the DVD bay and place the SSD where it used to be. If I need DVD, I can swap out the drives or use an external one (which I have) via usb. No big deal.

Another great feature is being able to create bootable DVD or CDs from your image. It will make the first one bootable and split the rest of the volume across how ever many it takes. It supports Blu-Ray as well so this becomes more practical.

I have already created a Linux boot cd and tested it and it works perfectly and finds the backup. There are some nice included utilities on the disk also.

The best thing though has to be getting BareMetal with the bundle which looks like the best way to manage and set up a multi-boot system with Windows 7 and two different Linux distros on it. But that's another story.


Like I said though, if all you want is to back up your windows computer then download the free Macrium Reflect, that's another great program that has really come a long way to maturity now. But if you work with Linux and want to multi-boot without faffing around with Grub, no contest...

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The OP was in 2007. :clap: :wheee:

It is a relatively unknown but it deserves the spotlight! :tu:
Partition Software - MiniTool® Partition Wizard Home Edition
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-par ... nager.html
Great for making partitions. An ISO is provided to make a bootable CD

It a great partitioning program and I believe I used it to clone my C drive
a long time ago, but I could be wrong. It does copy partitions but not sure
if it can clone the C drive and have it boot. I cloned a complete HDD with
C drive (had several partitions) and it booted but if I recall I had issues
with cloning the C drive and booting.

I forgot, :dog: it is FREE! :wheee:

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I realize this is an old thread, but since it's been revived....

As with any of these, check the Windows 8.1 support, if you think you'll ever "upgrade" to 8.1...and even if you don't expect to. Windows 8.1 puts even more restrictions than Windows 7 did on "Ghost"-type applications. Windows 8.1 has much more control over the boot process (and the hard drive), so what might work in Windows XP, Vista or 7 might fail in Windows 8.

Just a word of caution....

Steve
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I've been using Acronis True Image for quite a few years (not free) but am now using Windows 8 for my primary DAW and have not updated Acronis. As a result of this thread and the relevant Google search results, I just found AOMEI Backupper (the standard version is free) and it has quite a number of positive reviews so I've just downloaded and installed it on my Win 8 machine. I'm going to create a bootable image on a USB stick and give it a run.

This looks to offer pretty much everything I used in Acronis but is free and supports everything up to Win 8.1. :tu:

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AusDisciple wrote:I've been using Acronis True Image for quite a few years (not free) but am now using Windows 8 for my primary DAW and have not updated Acronis. As a result of this thread and the relevant Google search results, I just found AOMEI Backupper (the standard version is free) and it has quite a number of positive reviews so I've just downloaded and installed it on my Win 8 machine. I'm going to create a bootable image on a USB stick and give it a run.

This looks to offer pretty much everything I used in Acronis but is free and supports everything up to Win 8.1. :tu:
Acronis True Image has a free version available for owners of Western Digital and Seagate hard drives; check those sites for details.

One problem with Acronis is that it runs several processes on your computer, just on the off-chance you'll want to do a backup (or if you have one scheduled). These processes suck up valuable RAM and CPU cycles.

Steve
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planetearth wrote: As with any of these, check the Windows 8.1 support, if you think you'll ever "upgrade" to 8.1...and even if you don't expect to. Windows 8.1 puts even more restrictions than Windows 7 did on "Ghost"-type applications. Windows 8.1 has much more control over the boot process (and the hard drive), so what might work in Windows XP, Vista or 7 might fail in Windows 8.

Just a word of caution....

Steve

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Does IFW support UEFI with secure boot?

Yes, if you're using TBWinRE/PE based on Windows 8:
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=572
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Computer systems that come from the manufacturer with Windows 8 installed include a new BIOS interface known as the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI). This new BIOS interface boots media differently than a traditional BIOS. Microsoft also requires these systems to use a feature of UEFI called Secure Boot. When Secure Boot is enabled, the system will only boot items that have a digital signature that is included in the system firmware.
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Thanks, Codec (If I may be so bold as to address you by what I assume is your first name).

That answers it for IFW; other software (especially the free stuff) might not have the digital signature required.

Steve
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Look. For f**k's sake it is a sticky. ~

why is everyone getting hung up on the time frame?


WHO CARES.


There is a reason it is a sticky.

Let it go.

So much fear.

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codec_spurt wrote:Look. For f**k's sake it is a sticky. ~

why is everyone getting hung up on the time frame?


WHO CARES.


There is a reason it is a sticky.

Let it go.

So much fear.
Umm...ok. :?

Steve
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planetearth wrote:
codec_spurt wrote:Look. For f**k's sake it is a sticky. ~

why is everyone getting hung up on the time frame?


WHO CARES.


There is a reason it is a sticky.

Let it go.

So much fear.
Umm...ok. :?

Steve


Sorry, delayed reaction.

And delayed reaction to that. :-)


Fwiw, I did actually buy Terabyte Image for Windows http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm

which includes Image for Linux too. This was great for me, because it allowed me to see a hidden partition from within my windows system. It backed it up like a champ and restored it too. I don't know of any easier way to back up a Linux partition with my full Debian OS on. No other software can do this to my knowledge, from within windows. It is able, efficient and reliable.

I bought the full suite in fact including Bare Metal, so I can play about with booting from Windows or Linux.

One thing I found lacking is the fact that it doesn't seem to have any kind of backup for just folders like Easus ToDo has. I have a backup plan with that program that allows me to make differential backups and it is very fast and efficient. I went in quite deep with Terabyte IFW and it really lost me. It actually advised against doing either differential or incremental backups, but then it did not say how to do them with its software. I have never been so confused. I just gave up in the end. Very poor.

I am going to mail the dev, coz I heard he is a good chap that always gets back to you and helps you out, but for now, it seems academic anyway if he advises against it.

I think I will keep the TeraByte IFW and IFL for full backups and just do my incremental or rather differential backups with Easus ToDo.

In fact, and this rather pissed me off, I did do a differential/incremental backup of my 300GB DATA drive. With IFW. There was no way to know if it was incremental or differential even after me studying the manual for an hour. Anyway. The bastard took over 4 hours to write. Granted, the original was over 300GB, but it still seemed to go through every single sector to get there. All to write an extra 15GB. Fair enough.

If I want to do that, I will use Easus ToDo or another program. It only takes 20 minutes. Mmm let me see - 4 hours or 20 minutes - let me think...

I don't see how this program (TeraByte) is practical in anything other than full scale backups. No wonder he advises against doing incremental or differential backups. I wonder if there is a correlation. I probably don't understand how this works and I will give him the right to reply. To be fair, he did explain how differential backups are much more efficient and safe than incremental backups. Or was it vice versa. I forget now. It's all in the manual. But suffice to say there is a difference.

Still, for the money, this is an excellent second backup plan. It is not the be all and end all of imaging. I would say find a program like Paragon or Macrium or whatever and get familiar with that first. But then a program like this comes into its own. It is very highly regarded by the best of the security community so I know it is a good thing to learn, but as some have said, it isn't the most convenient of programs.

Oh well, that's my little review. I'll do some more as I go along coz this software suite has lots of utilities I need for transferring and migrating my hd to SSD and what not.

I plan to put my current hd in my cd, and put the ssd where the hd goes. That not only gives me a few hundred GB of extra space, but it takes stress of my current hd and makes it faster. Just means I have to mess about if I want to use a CD/DVD - but I don't do that often these days.


I must say in defense of the TeraByte software though, that it did work very fast on other partitions and also created them at a decent size with compression, all at a very quick rate. It's half a dozen of one and you know...

The others are free - Paragon - Macrium etc.. But this is the one you want to pay for. Little disappointed, but don't regret my decision to buy it. Let's see how the dev responds. I'll point him to this thread.

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how did I not notice this thread before... got a 4tb external incoming, and I'll be reading this thread in the mean time 8)

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Here's another endorsement for DriveImage XML. Been using it successfully for about 10 years, and I do a lot of restores as part of my DAW building and conservation program. (What? You don't have one? I've got 5 workstations, so it is essential.)

After installing Windows, I use DriveImage XML to make an image of the boot drive using compression and file segmentation to do so. (I set it to 700 Mb so that all the segments will fit onto a few DVD-R). Thereafter, I can experiement and troubleshoot to my heart's content without having to worry. Also, should Windows ever start to act up because of being connected to the Internet so much, I simply replace it. (Who needs virus protection? After 25+ years in the industry, I've only ever seen 2 actual ones anyway.)

Here's how I can just replace Windows, and not anything else, during a restore. I use Windows 7 Pro. It installs into 50GB on a new hard drive, and once done I use a hard drive utility to shrink the C: drive down to a footprint of about 20 GB ... I have to leave a few GBs empty. [For the details, see: https://youtu.be/Hec1wCzlh64]

Later, I will install any applications on to a separate applications partition or drive ... of, say, about 10 GB. [For the details, see: https://youtu.be/Q8LpEz8IUc4]

I estimate about a couple hundred DriveImage XML restores so far. Only had one fail. For that rare occasion, I build and install all my DAWs as close to identical as possible. When it happened, I just took that machine off the network and used another image that I know works on it, thereafter using the Windows install disk to repair the boot issues. Afterwards, I changed its computer name and identity, as well as re-installed the network drivers to avoid conflicts. Voila' Saved days of re-building!

(Check out this video for further tweaks: https://youtu.be/NQJvquLI2OQ)
Al

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Ahh my one and only sticky thread, I'm so proud of her. I was 34 when I started it now I'm 42 :cry:
Free hard-drives for all on the 10th anniversary. :scared: :hihi:

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I've used acronis true image for some time now, and like it.
I usually only do full-on backup and restores (not incremental), so i basically install it, create the bootable media (usb key), then wipe and do a fresh windows install. From there, i use the bootable media to back up and restore from there (to an external usb hd).

the 2015 version (the one that started supporting win 8 ) still works with win10, so i haven't upgraded to this year's model yet.

for free, though, yeah, if you pick up an external usb drive, you can usually use whatever software comes on that.
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I use Acronis for backups. It's always gotten disc numbers down right and though it can be tempermental - It's somewhat intuitive.
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