PCIe soundcard?
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
forget about a soundblaster for anything real working with a DAW. Period, full stop.
RME makes PCI-e cards. there is your answer unless you can't afford. Multiface 2 isn't that expensive considering.
RME makes PCI-e cards. there is your answer unless you can't afford. Multiface 2 isn't that expensive considering.
- KVRAF
- 10532 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
Creative updated their ASIO driver. I have the X-Fi and I get 2 ms latency. If you can get lower, congrats. The only think I don't like is no RCA outputs. Makes my monitors useless unless I get a 2.1 gaming system (not), or an amp with digital in.
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- KVRAF
- 1676 posts since 17 Dec, 2002 from Yorkshire
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Exactly.robotmonkey wrote:First, there really isn't any. Well, of course except some really expensive stuff from RME, SC and TC. I think I have seen a cheaper card or two from Maya/ESI though. But not sure.
Second, Creative Sound Cards are not proper audio interfaces. You could use them, but not an ideal solution.
And it is not really fair to say that the new alternatives to the old king of the non-pro market, the $95 M-Audio 2496, are the current $300-$500+ options available now.
I doubt RME saw a huge jump up in sales once the M-Audio/Maya options werent around. However, I bet sales of all externals are now through the roof.
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- KVRian
- 1021 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand
Esi still have the maya and julia in production though - both pcie and pci. Sure they're not in he same league as an rme, but a perfectly viable replacement for the m-audio at the same price levelhighkoo wrote:robotmonkey wrote: I doubt RME saw a huge jump up in sales once the M-Audio/Maya options werent around. However, I bet sales of all externals are now through the roof.
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- KVRAF
- 1782 posts since 4 Sep, 2011 from England
X-Fi Titanium has phono out for none digital stereo amplifiers you dont need a digital cable for it.
ASIO on the creative X-FI Titanium is 2MS in total. I have to set it higher so the 3.6Ghz i7 has time to keep up with it.
It can run a DAW at 44khz 48, 96 or 192khz
I use U-he DIVA and Omnisphere and many others in Ableton live 8 also tried Studio One 2 with mixes 9GB in size and many tracks no problems with this card.
The only diference I can see on cards for music production is they have many sockets to plug hardware synthesizers in and thats it.
ASIO on the creative X-FI Titanium is 2MS in total. I have to set it higher so the 3.6Ghz i7 has time to keep up with it.
It can run a DAW at 44khz 48, 96 or 192khz
I use U-he DIVA and Omnisphere and many others in Ableton live 8 also tried Studio One 2 with mixes 9GB in size and many tracks no problems with this card.
The only diference I can see on cards for music production is they have many sockets to plug hardware synthesizers in and thats it.
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Are they actually still making them?jdnz wrote: Esi still have the maya and julia in production though - both pcie and pci. Sure they're not in he same league as an rme, but a perfectly viable replacement for the m-audio at the same price level
They Maya is listed on their site, but the only places that seem to have it 'in stock' are lesser known sites. Its not at many places and it lists as discontinued at some.
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- KVRian
- 1021 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand
thomann.de show plenty of stock : http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_maya_44_xte.htmhighkoo wrote: They Maya is listed on their site, but the only places that seem to have it 'in stock' are lesser known sites.
- KVRAF
- 10532 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
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- KVRAF
- 1782 posts since 4 Sep, 2011 from England
Never had driver problems with creative cards in 11 years using them.
Some people use the low budget X-FI gamer which is an 8 year old card with a driver that runs proper X-FI features on one of your CPU cores maybe thats why some are a bit iffy with DAWS.
Some people use the low budget X-FI gamer which is an 8 year old card with a driver that runs proper X-FI features on one of your CPU cores maybe thats why some are a bit iffy with DAWS.
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- KVRAF
- 3441 posts since 15 Mar, 2003
Kaboom75 wrote:X-Fi Titanium has phono out for none digital stereo amplifiers you dont need a digital cable for it.
ASIO on the creative X-FI Titanium is 2MS in total. I have to set it higher so the 3.6Ghz i7 has time to keep up with it.
It can run a DAW at 44khz 48, 96 or 192khz
I use U-he DIVA and Omnisphere and many others in Ableton live 8 also tried Studio One 2 with mixes 9GB in size and many tracks no problems with this card.
The only diference I can see on cards for music production is they have many sockets to plug hardware synthesizers in and thats it.
This makes me question the latency of 2ms.
If you can't run it at 2ms I would think that it isn't capable of 2ms.
Why wouldn't a 3.6 Ghz i7 not be able to keep up?
I'd like to think that this card is an option because just about every other manufacturer has abandoned the internal card market in the lower price ranges.
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
So does that mean they are still making them or what?jdnz wrote:thomann.de show plenty of stock : http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_maya_44_xte.htmhighkoo wrote: They Maya is listed on their site, but the only places that seem to have it 'in stock' are lesser known sites.
- KVRAF
- 10532 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
I run mine at 3 ms, but if you want any lower.....