Well I'm using ASIO at 44.1 right now on an older project with no problems.Mister Natural wrote:WIN10 naturally defaults to 48khz (for whatever reason)
Curious if ASIO also needs to run @ 48 . . .
EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 6 Mar, 2016
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- KVRian
- 728 posts since 14 Aug, 2001
Quick question ,.. I have not read all pages 
I have both a 1820M and a 1212M in old PCI versoins still on storage
The drivers have never been good enough for my taste at all, but earlier I used them just for the fine A/D & D/A lightpibed from the better HDSP 9652 RME-card, so not using any ASIO or WDM drivers or any sound driers at all, just pure patching, questions:
1. Is this still possible @44.1 at both windows 8 and 10 64 bit ????
2. And in case yes, exactly what drivers should be used ????
3. And where to download ????
4. Anything special to be aware of ????
(I don't see all drivers mentioned here at creative site)
My new motherboard is Asus Z97-A, and I still got a free PCI-slot, so it could be fun using the old stuff
I have both a 1820M and a 1212M in old PCI versoins still on storage
The drivers have never been good enough for my taste at all, but earlier I used them just for the fine A/D & D/A lightpibed from the better HDSP 9652 RME-card, so not using any ASIO or WDM drivers or any sound driers at all, just pure patching, questions:
1. Is this still possible @44.1 at both windows 8 and 10 64 bit ????
2. And in case yes, exactly what drivers should be used ????
3. And where to download ????
4. Anything special to be aware of ????
(I don't see all drivers mentioned here at creative site)
My new motherboard is Asus Z97-A, and I still got a free PCI-slot, so it could be fun using the old stuff
Last edited by HM on Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
HM
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174 - KVRAF
- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
anyone running WIN10 yet ???
expert only on what it feels like to be me
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https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/tracks
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- KVRian
- 1003 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
HM wrote:Quick question ,.. I have not read all pages
I have both a 1820M and a 1212M in old PCI versoins still on storage
The drivers have never been good enough for my taste at all, but earlier I used them just for the fine A/D & D/A lightpibed from the better HDSP 9652 RME-card, so not using any ASIO or WDM drivers or any sound driers at all, just pure patching, questions:
1. Is this still possible @44.1 at both windows 8 and 10 64 bit ????
2. And in case yes, exactly what drivers should be used ????
3. And where to download ????
4. Anything special to be aware of ????
(I don't see all drivers mentioned here at creative site)
My new motherboard is Asus Z97-A, and I still got a free PCI-slot, so it could be fun using the old stuff
What does lightpibed mean? Found only 2 hits on google, and this is one of them..
Best Regards
Roman Empire
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- KVRian
- 728 posts since 14 Aug, 2001
Light-pibed means that the the emu card is only used for its ad/da, and connected to the rme-hdsp with adat optical connectors, both in and out, with the rme being the actual asio sound-card, a good way to still use a 1212 or 1820 system, converters are good , but asio-performance, stability, and layency-performance is far far behind RMERoman Empire wrote:HM wrote:Quick question ,.. I have not read all pages
I have both a 1820M and a 1212M in old PCI versoins still on storage
The drivers have never been good enough for my taste at all, but earlier I used them just for the fine A/D & D/A lightpibed from the better HDSP 9652 RME-card, so not using any ASIO or WDM drivers or any sound driers at all, just pure patching, questions:
1. Is this still possible @44.1 at both windows 8 and 10 64 bit ????
2. And in case yes, exactly what drivers should be used ????
3. And where to download ????
4. Anything special to be aware of ????
(I don't see all drivers mentioned here at creative site)
My new motherboard is Asus Z97-A, and I still got a free PCI-slot, so it could be fun using the old stuff
What does lightpibed mean? Found only 2 hits on google, and this is one of them..
Best Regards
Roman Empire
HM
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- KVRian
- 1003 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
Ah I see! I have the same two cards myself, but the 9632 has a (way too cheap) mic amp connected to its digital in. I assume there´d be no advantage in using the 1212 instead for this, right?
Are 9632 D/A that much worse than 1212 ones?
Best Regards
Roman Empire
Are 9632 D/A that much worse than 1212 ones?
Best Regards
Roman Empire
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- KVRian
- 728 posts since 14 Aug, 2001
RME9632 and E-mu 1820, (non "m"), are with avarage converters, 100-105 db to the noisefloor, while 1820m and 1212m is with better AKM converters with 115-118 db as far as I remember,Roman Empire wrote:Ah I see! I have the same two cards myself, but the 9632 has a (way too cheap) mic amp connected to its digital in. I assume there´d be no advantage in using the 1212 instead for this, right?
Are 9632 D/A that much worse than 1212 ones?
Best Regards
Roman Empire
What would make sense is using RME for asio sound card, use 1212m or 1820m for converter via adat lightpibe, and then use a stand-alone quality pre-amp if its a fragile mic signal
Thats how I see it, and why I keep the Emu cards
HM
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
no, I'm not kidding - I've been holding out on 7
Do I hear you saying that the drivers on the soundcard play OK with WIN10 ?
thanks
Do I hear you saying that the drivers on the soundcard play OK with WIN10 ?
thanks
expert only on what it feels like to be me
https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/tracks
https://soundcloud.com/mrnatural-1/tracks
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- KVRian
- 1003 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
HM wrote:RME9632 and E-mu 1820, (non "m"), are with avarage converters, 100-105 db to the noisefloor, while 1820m and 1212m is with better AKM converters with 115-118 db as far as I remember,Roman Empire wrote:Ah I see! I have the same two cards myself, but the 9632 has a (way too cheap) mic amp connected to its digital in. I assume there´d be no advantage in using the 1212 instead for this, right?
Are 9632 D/A that much worse than 1212 ones?
Best Regards
Roman Empire
What would make sense is using RME for asio sound card, use 1212m or 1820m for converter via adat lightpibe, and then use a stand-alone quality pre-amp if its a fragile mic signal
Thats how I see it, and why I keep the Emu cards
Time for pulling out the old card and do some nerding then I guess!
Is no extra latency introduced with the digital connection between the two cards?
Best regards
Roman Empire
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- KVRian
- 1003 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
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- KVRian
- 1003 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
So I went to find my old 1212m PCI in the closet and got it installed to my DAW.
I was not aware that the PCIe beta driver is not ment for this card, so that´s the one I grabbed. There seemed to be no issues at first, as the card was recognized perfectly and syncing via the optical output to the HDSP 9632, and in patchmix there´s an indication of in the top left corner that the 0202m board is connected.
But then when I wanted to record something from the microphone through jack breakout card, I was unpleasantly surprised: No sound at all coming into the card, the way it looks in patchmix.
What I do see working though is playing audio. I did not listen to it, just checked if there was response on the strip in patchmix.
Is anyone aware of wether if the PCIe driver is the problem? People with a 1212m PCI working under Win10 64 bit (or win 7), are you succesful with recording, and which driver are you using?
I can start to try swapping cards and stuff, but first I´d like to know as much as possible regarding other peoples experiences.
Edit: I just tried with a beta driver from 2010 for win7 that should work with both PCI and PCIe - same problem.
Thanks!
Best Regards
Roman Empire
I was not aware that the PCIe beta driver is not ment for this card, so that´s the one I grabbed. There seemed to be no issues at first, as the card was recognized perfectly and syncing via the optical output to the HDSP 9632, and in patchmix there´s an indication of in the top left corner that the 0202m board is connected.
But then when I wanted to record something from the microphone through jack breakout card, I was unpleasantly surprised: No sound at all coming into the card, the way it looks in patchmix.
What I do see working though is playing audio. I did not listen to it, just checked if there was response on the strip in patchmix.
Is anyone aware of wether if the PCIe driver is the problem? People with a 1212m PCI working under Win10 64 bit (or win 7), are you succesful with recording, and which driver are you using?
I can start to try swapping cards and stuff, but first I´d like to know as much as possible regarding other peoples experiences.
Edit: I just tried with a beta driver from 2010 for win7 that should work with both PCI and PCIe - same problem.
Thanks!
Best Regards
Roman Empire
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- KVRian
- 1003 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
I did not see anything mentioned there about recording - only playback.Mutant wrote:Roman read page #5.
Edit: Just tried wiring my mobile phone to the other input and that worked! Not a driver issue then - must be my SM7B that is too quiet for this card. Really a shame, cause I thought that I could skip my awfully noisy Samson C-Valve mic amp.
Best Regards
Roman Empire
