CPU's for a windows 7 x64 update (plus other build talk)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I already have an i7 860 (first gen) and it's been great, but have given some thought to a new computer since it's been 4 years and my starting point is here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116901
I'd think this should be sufficient, but it's hard to get good info other than "it's sick dude" type answers. My main concerns are:
-with a daw like STUDIO ONE, what would you think is a realistic performance increase? Apparently it is my computer that is the reason S1 has some CPU spiking so I'm looking at something that will be a significant upgrade or I'd rather save my coin.
-Should I look into this and keep stock (power consumption) or should I save a few bucks with a lower GHZ and just overclock?
-is there ANY practical reason that you know of to spend the extra money to go with something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116939
The extra cores are groovy, and I am looking for another 4-5 years out of it, but this would likely mean a fancier and possibly less desirable (I'm picky about what kind of pci/e slots I have) not to mention this will be an SSD computer.....so I'm already screwed financially
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116901
I'd think this should be sufficient, but it's hard to get good info other than "it's sick dude" type answers. My main concerns are:
-with a daw like STUDIO ONE, what would you think is a realistic performance increase? Apparently it is my computer that is the reason S1 has some CPU spiking so I'm looking at something that will be a significant upgrade or I'd rather save my coin.
-Should I look into this and keep stock (power consumption) or should I save a few bucks with a lower GHZ and just overclock?
-is there ANY practical reason that you know of to spend the extra money to go with something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116939
The extra cores are groovy, and I am looking for another 4-5 years out of it, but this would likely mean a fancier and possibly less desirable (I'm picky about what kind of pci/e slots I have) not to mention this will be an SSD computer.....so I'm already screwed financially
Last edited by hibidy on Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:36 am, edited 2 times in total.
- KVRAF
- 4427 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
i have first gen i7 in my laptop and ivy bridge i7 in my studio PC. the difference, although isn't quite "wow" inducing, still is quite obvious. don't forget to have lots of RAM as well.
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
It will be 16 gig. I have 8 now, and that is fine so I'm sure 16 will be good.
I just saw this:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha ... eview.html
Clearly I'm not up on my chipsets
I just saw this:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha ... eview.html
Clearly I'm not up on my chipsets
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
hibidy - Not to rain on your parade, but, I'm sure you realize these will require a different mobo, than the one you prolly have, right? So there's some more coin.
You didn't mention in your post so I'm not sure you realize this.
Man, that 4930K sure looks sweet. They both do!
Along with this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813132053
Sick Dude!
Happy Musiking!
dsan
You didn't mention in your post so I'm not sure you realize this.
Man, that 4930K sure looks sweet. They both do!
Along with this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813132053
Sick Dude!
Happy Musiking!
dsan
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
Let me know how it turns out. I've been kicking around the idea of a new build but not convinced yet I need to.
Will be interested to know the gear you decide on.
Happy Musiking!
dsan
Will be interested to know the gear you decide on.
Happy Musiking!
dsan
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Wow. In looking around it seems the 4770 is just about the bee's knee's in benchmarks with very few exceptions AND it uses far less power.
I'm thinking about this as a fan.
http://phanteks.com/PH-TC14PE.html
I'm thinking about this as a fan.
http://phanteks.com/PH-TC14PE.html
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Looks like the problem with studio one is NOT just my computer. I think I'll stay pat and save the coin.
Still, that 4770 looks to be the chip people should be looking at.
Still, that 4770 looks to be the chip people should be looking at.
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- Banned
- 1374 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Finland
How about this setup
AMD FX8350 - 200$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113284
Gigabyte Mobo - 65$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813128627
8GB RAM - 78$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820104262
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343$
The 4770 alone was 340$...
FX8350 is only slightly lower in performance tests and has none of the stability issues i7's have. Plus that is the same setup i have and i can tell you it works like a charm
AMD FX8350 - 200$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113284
Gigabyte Mobo - 65$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813128627
8GB RAM - 78$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820104262
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343$
The 4770 alone was 340$...
FX8350 is only slightly lower in performance tests and has none of the stability issues i7's have. Plus that is the same setup i have and i can tell you it works like a charm
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I've already got a "good" computer, I'm looking for something that makes this thing look like a pocket calculator
Since I'm not going SSD, I've got it priced at about 1200 which if it holds up as well as this would be terrific. I look to get 4-5 years these days out of one.
Since I'm not going SSD, I've got it priced at about 1200 which if it holds up as well as this would be terrific. I look to get 4-5 years these days out of one.
- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 28 Feb, 2011
Hib, those are both great CPUs. The K is good only if you plan to overclock, otherwise it's wasted money. The 4-core has the newest Intel graphics, which are much better than ever before and would prolly mean you don't need a gpu card, which is great and should save the planet too. The 6-cores however are nice for running multiple instances of CPU-hogging plugs. Personally, I have a third-gen hexacore and love it.
So if you already have a decent PCIe-slot gpu, I would strongly consider the 6-core. Otherwise, the 4-core is sick mon.
However, in my opinion, the best thing to update your puter would be an ssd. But your OS has to be set up as AHCI in the MB BIOS. If the drive is on an IDE setting in the BIOS, you won't see as dramatic a result. And you cannot simply switch the setting to AHCI or the drive will not boot. Better to reinstall a fresh copy of Winders on an AHCI SATA channel on your new SSD drive, and enjoy much faster performance without spending too much. Get a new MB/CPU later.
So if you already have a decent PCIe-slot gpu, I would strongly consider the 6-core. Otherwise, the 4-core is sick mon.
However, in my opinion, the best thing to update your puter would be an ssd. But your OS has to be set up as AHCI in the MB BIOS. If the drive is on an IDE setting in the BIOS, you won't see as dramatic a result. And you cannot simply switch the setting to AHCI or the drive will not boot. Better to reinstall a fresh copy of Winders on an AHCI SATA channel on your new SSD drive, and enjoy much faster performance without spending too much. Get a new MB/CPU later.
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- KVRist
- 53 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from chicago
I did the exact upgrade your talking about 2 months ago...put in 32gb of memory and put in ssd drives too...the boot time in unbelievable and loading kontakt libraries is now seconds...the biggest improvement I see is in handling everything smoothly...using Diva and Lush highest settings is a joy...
If your in the USA...I really suggest going to a microcenter...they offer a lot cheaper processor prices and discounts on bundling motherboards and memory
http://cart.microcenter.com/cart.aspx?R ... center.com
You wont regret the upgrade
Anthony
If your in the USA...I really suggest going to a microcenter...they offer a lot cheaper processor prices and discounts on bundling motherboards and memory
http://cart.microcenter.com/cart.aspx?R ... center.com
You wont regret the upgrade
Anthony
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Thanks for the tips
@SSD. I really want to go that route. But I keep hearing about degradation and my thoughts become all that cash, but it's not going to be reliable? It just doesn't make any sense.
Looked into hybrids and that seems to be a possible option. Of course you have to use things a few times before they speed increases because it's cached.
This doesn't work. I've now seen two examples of people with clicks and dropouts trying to use the built in video. A reasonable fanless viddy card is about 60 bucks.The 4-core has the newest Intel graphics, which are much better than ever before and would prolly mean you don't need a gpu card, which is great and should save the planet too.
@SSD. I really want to go that route. But I keep hearing about degradation and my thoughts become all that cash, but it's not going to be reliable? It just doesn't make any sense.
Looked into hybrids and that seems to be a possible option. Of course you have to use things a few times before they speed increases because it's cached.
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
This has been my concern too, the longevity of the device. As I understand them ssd's only take so many writes before they go boom. Now that may be many many but still, for the cost vs. longevity vs. speed I think I'll stick my WD Blacks for now and deal with the speed.hibidy wrote:.....@SSD. I really want to go that route. But I keep hearing about degradation and my thoughts become all that cash, but it's not going to be reliable? It just doesn't make any sense.
Looked into hybrids and that seems to be a possible option. Of course you have to use things a few times before they speed increases because it's cached.
Happy Musiking!
dsan