CPU's for a windows 7 x64 update (plus other build talk)
- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 28 Feb, 2011
Good advice about the strap.
1600 MHz memory should be easy to maintain at that speed, just make sure that exact memory model is listed on the Gigabyte web site as compatible. I can run 1800 MHz rock solid on my Gigabyte by selecting Extreme Memory Profile 1, but really the memory speed isn't that important to performance, compared to CPU and SSD speed differences for example.
You probably already know this, but one thing that is important is running your drives in AHCI mode instead of IDE mode. Make sure you set up your Winders with AHCI turned on for that drive in the UEFI (BIOS), because it's tough to switch an IDE OS install to AHCI once Winders is up and running. You can switch back and forth between IDE and AHCI with non-OS drives, but not with the OS drive.
1600 MHz memory should be easy to maintain at that speed, just make sure that exact memory model is listed on the Gigabyte web site as compatible. I can run 1800 MHz rock solid on my Gigabyte by selecting Extreme Memory Profile 1, but really the memory speed isn't that important to performance, compared to CPU and SSD speed differences for example.
You probably already know this, but one thing that is important is running your drives in AHCI mode instead of IDE mode. Make sure you set up your Winders with AHCI turned on for that drive in the UEFI (BIOS), because it's tough to switch an IDE OS install to AHCI once Winders is up and running. You can switch back and forth between IDE and AHCI with non-OS drives, but not with the OS drive.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I have one of those!!!!! Have used it on every buildmetamorphosis wrote:Yes.
If you're putting this together yourself,
Don't f**k It Up
Use a static strap connected to a grounded metal surface that is not electrically active.
Static discharge unnoticable to humans from regular skin can cause problems with ram that don't show up for 3-6 months, and even then may not show up under a memory test.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Oh, another thing to learn. Reading into it now.Gonga wrote:Good advice about the strap.
1600 MHz memory should be easy to maintain at that speed, just make sure that exact memory model is listed on the Gigabyte web site as compatible. I can run 1800 MHz rock solid on my Gigabyte by selecting Extreme Memory Profile 1, but really the memory speed isn't that important to performance, compared to CPU and SSD speed differences for example.
You probably already know this, but one thing that is important is running your drives in AHCI mode instead of IDE mode. Make sure you set up your Winders with AHCI turned on for that drive in the UEFI (BIOS), because it's tough to switch an IDE OS install to AHCI once Winders is up and running. You can switch back and forth between IDE and AHCI with non-OS drives, but not with the OS drive.
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- KVRAF
- 1929 posts since 4 Nov, 2004 from Manchester
I've lost track of where we are with this (CPU? Motherboard?), so I'm just going to punt some generic advice that covers all bases.hibidy wrote:Question about ram:
MOBO SPECS: DDR3 2933(O.C.)/1600/1333
Ram SPECS: DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
I'm not doing ANY overclocking.....er, this is the right ram.......right?
Either direction your looking (be it 4770 or 4930) the offically supported memory as spec'd by Intel cuts off at 1600Mhz. Anything over that is classed as overclocked as the board itself is doing something that the chipset isn't rated too offically.
In real world terms, we find memory over 1600Mhz more likely to throw a spanner in the works during setup and generally more of a P.I.T.A. which given the slight difference in performance and the extra cost makes it hard to justify and I'd lean in the direction of sticking with the 1600Mhz for you as well.
Advice specific to the 4930 and other chips on that platform would be to ensure your memory is 1.35v and no higher to ensure the best compability. On a 4770 based rig, 1.5v is where you should draw the line although 1.35v would be better if only from a reduction in heat generated within the controller point of view.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Thanks! Where the confusing comes in is that although the "1600" is the same, the (12800) is not listed by the mobos (none of them) So I just want to make sure the ram matches.Kaine wrote:I've lost track of where we are with this (CPU? Motherboard?), so I'm just going to punt some generic advice that covers all bases.hibidy wrote:Question about ram:
MOBO SPECS: DDR3 2933(O.C.)/1600/1333
Ram SPECS: DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
I'm not doing ANY overclocking.....er, this is the right ram.......right?
Either direction your looking (be it 4770 or 4930) the offically supported memory as spec'd by Intel cuts off at 1600Mhz. Anything over that is classed as overclocked as the board itself is doing something that the chipset isn't rated too offically.
In real world terms, we find memory over 1600Mhz more likely to throw a spanner in the works during setup and generally more of a P.I.T.A. which given the slight difference in performance and the extra cost makes it hard to justify and I'd lean in the direction of sticking with the 1600Mhz for you as well.
Advice specific to the 4930 and other chips on that platform would be to ensure your memory is 1.35v and no higher to ensure the best compability. On a 4770 based rig, 1.5v is where you should draw the line although 1.35v would be better if only from a reduction in heat generated within the controller point of view.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I wonder if this inexpensive ram is any good......(edit, the voltage may not be right)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231568
Ooooooooo, 4770 is on sale big time!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231568
Ooooooooo, 4770 is on sale big time!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I'm so excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abotu 1600 shipped/tax and it's all I wanted. Thanks to all (now I just hope that damn thing works when I put it together )
Abotu 1600 shipped/tax and it's all I wanted. Thanks to all (now I just hope that damn thing works when I put it together )
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- KVRAF
- 3080 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from S.E. TN
A month or so ago was looking inside a Korg Kronos X keyboard, which is a pretty nice device in many regards.
The innards from a CPU aspect, show remarkable resemblance to a low-end Intel Atom netbook with a small SSD drive, but of course there is more to the "package" than just the CPU, memory and drive.
The thing of note, was that merely equipped with a 30 or 60 GB small SSD drive, Korg went to the trouble of mounting a fan on the drive bracket, dedicated to blowing air over the drive.
So that got me thinking, maybe even if SSD drives don't draw much power, it mightn't be a bad idea to dedicate a fan-enclosure for any SSD's in a puter system? There are SSD drive mounting kits fer sail that do include fans.
Was just thinking, though the Kronos is a nice enough thang for what it is, if Korg was pinching pennies enough to only include parts "adequate to the task but not over-speced for the task", then they might have considered a fan on the SSD to be important, or they would most likely have pinched that penny and deleted the fan?
The innards from a CPU aspect, show remarkable resemblance to a low-end Intel Atom netbook with a small SSD drive, but of course there is more to the "package" than just the CPU, memory and drive.
The thing of note, was that merely equipped with a 30 or 60 GB small SSD drive, Korg went to the trouble of mounting a fan on the drive bracket, dedicated to blowing air over the drive.
So that got me thinking, maybe even if SSD drives don't draw much power, it mightn't be a bad idea to dedicate a fan-enclosure for any SSD's in a puter system? There are SSD drive mounting kits fer sail that do include fans.
Was just thinking, though the Kronos is a nice enough thang for what it is, if Korg was pinching pennies enough to only include parts "adequate to the task but not over-speced for the task", then they might have considered a fan on the SSD to be important, or they would most likely have pinched that penny and deleted the fan?
- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 28 Feb, 2011
Newegg always ships my cases separately from CA. I usually end up waiting on them while the innards arrive first from a closer warehouse.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Yeah, looks that way.
Hopefully, by the end of the week I'll end up with everything. I'm in no real hurry, though this system is possibly on the verge of an HD dying (strange issues.......)
Hopefully, by the end of the week I'll end up with everything. I'm in no real hurry, though this system is possibly on the verge of an HD dying (strange issues.......)
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- KVRAF
- 3071 posts since 29 Sep, 2005
hibidy, step one: open everything and make sure it is what you ordered and need and that it is undamaged. Be sure to wear your strap when handling those expensive electronic items.
step two....go have a beer.
you are probably really tired now (I know I am) so go have a nap.
Come back when you are rested and we'll see about the next step.
Happy Musiking!
dsan
step two....go have a beer.
you are probably really tired now (I know I am) so go have a nap.
Come back when you are rested and we'll see about the next step.
Happy Musiking!
dsan