Fresh Win7 Home Premium 64 SP1 install, Fresh Hell

[MachFront]

I've scanned the drive and the software found nothing wrong (no bad sectors, etc.). I've run software regarding temperature. Nothing wrong there. The computer works perfectly otherwise. It's as quick and responsive as it ever was. No software issues. No quirks. No nothing. Just and only Windows Update is acting weird.

Try Windows 10, then... Why not?

Heh. Because I'm scared.

Ignoring the update issue (which I may very well be able to solve), at least I already know Win7 works perfectly well on this lil old thing.

(I also need to learn more about all this rumbling/complaining about Win10's 'prying eyes' or whatever the heck that's all about.)

[glokraw]

It's an old and simple business model: bartering

One party surrenders the ability to have secure data i/o
in trade for the 'free' use of windoze 10 on modern motherboards.
Colated data is sold to businesses and governments,
who hope it gives them advantages against adversaries
in their respective areas of interest.

If the bartering angle flops, then windoze '11' will have a $ticker.

Remember, when politicians say 'it's free', it means the taxpayers
have already been looted, and their wealth transferred to the coffers
of control freak bureaucrats, who dole it out like candy,
to buy votes.

Free healthcare, free college, free foodstamps, free housing
yada yada yada
Cheers

[chk071]

It's an old and simple business model: bartering

One party surrenders the ability to have secure data i/o
in trade for the 'free' use of windoze 10 on modern motherboards.
Colated data is sold to businesses and governments,
who hope it gives them advantages against adversaries
in their respective areas of interest.

If the bartering angle flops, then windoze '11' will have a $ticker.

Remember, when politicians say 'it's free', it means the taxpayers
have already been looted, and their wealth transferred to the coffers
of control freak bureaucrats, who dole it out like candy,
to buy votes.

Free healthcare, free college, free foodstamps, free housing
yada yada yada
Cheers

And what on earth does all that have to do with this thread? I mean... not that i want to interrupt your chant there or so...

[UltraJv]

I accept that that may be a possibility, but it still seems unlikely. Heck, the whole computer was so borked it wouldn't even boot to Windows back in Nov. 2014 (after I'd updated a driver). That was when I first had to reset to factory settings. Everything was aces then, as well.

Also, looking for a solution online to the Windows Update issue reveals a double-wide eff-ton of people with (specifically) Windows 7 that are having/have had the very same issue with regards to Update seeming to not download updates. There are more than a few FixIts and other such from Microsoft themselves that purport to address this issue. For many folks (as myself) these do not work.

I've scanned the drive and the software found nothing wrong (no bad sectors, etc.). I've run software regarding temperature. Nothing wrong there. The computer works perfectly otherwise. It's as quick and responsive as it ever was. No software issues. No quirks. No nothing. Just and only Windows Update is acting weird.

(Note also it was working fine with Linux. Also, Windows Update was acting up before I deleted the recovery partition. Also...I had zero choice but to do so because Windows claimed there was a missing dll, and it was missing, but I replaced it and it still claimed the dll was missing. Due to that nearly no program would launch, including the HP program that controlled setting up the factory settings...so, yeah, I "f**ked things up" because I had no choice but to try to start from scratch.)

Scanning the HDD wont really show up anything in Windows. Its meant for soft errors. You need to do a SMART test (Self-Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology) its built into HDDs. SMART tech stops faults showing up in WIndows unless you use the right tool :

http://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to- ... -is-dying/

It may also be a problem on your DVD reader corrupting installs.

[MachFront]

CrystalDiskInfo reads all clear.

DVD reader issue. That's kinda interesting.Hm.

[glokraw]

It's an old and simple business model: bartering

One party surrenders the ability to have secure data i/o
in trade for the 'free' use of windoze 10 on modern motherboards.
Colated data is sold to businesses and governments,
who hope it gives them advantages against adversaries
in their respective areas of interest.

If the bartering angle flops, then windoze '11' will have a $ticker.

Remember, when politicians say 'it's free', it means the taxpayers
have already been looted, and their wealth transferred to the coffers
of control freak bureaucrats, who dole it out like candy,
to buy votes.

Free healthcare, free college, free foodstamps, free housing
yada yada yada
Cheers

And what on earth does all that have to do with this thread? I mean... not that i want to interrupt your chant there or so...

Windoze is the world premier OS for using vst. It's being promoted as being 'free', and it is far from being free.
The features, flaws, hidden processes, corrupt business practices, and installing it 'free', at times without the computer owners knowledge or permission, are all related to the freedom to use virtual studio technology, on our own terms, with the OS we choose, and in preference to using expensive, innefficient or outdated hardware. The viability of windoze 10, and it's shadowy release is a major concern going forward.
And not just to an odd hamlet of musicians.

[glokraw]

CrystalDiskInfo reads all clear.

DVD reader issue. That's kinda interesting.Hm.

If you download an iso of some significant size, and it's
MD5 checksum, and they match when burning the iso to cd/dvd,
it's likely the dvd burner is not faulty. Good burner softwares have
a verify option, to help against a flawed media.

[chaosWyrM]

ok...so forgive me, but i havent read the entire thread here...just kinda skimmed...if what im writing here doesnt help i apologize.

anyway...i just went through this exact same issue...took me 15 hours to update win7 and install win10 on my laptop. the problem was windows update wouldnt work.

this is what i used to get it to finally work:

offline windows update software
http://download.wsusoffline.net/

one thing though...before doing that...

go to services and disable windows update.
then go to c/windows/softwaredistribution and delete everything in there...all of it.

now enable windows update again (you may not be able to...just restart the computer then enable it.)

NOW try the offline wsus.

thats what finally did it for me.

and yes...some parts take a long time.

good luck

::edit::

to be honest i dont know if you really need to empty that softwaredistribution folder if you use the offline update software...but thats just the order in which i did it. i do know that emptying that folder helped a little...but i dont know for a fact if its necessary when using the offline update...it certainly wont hurt though.

[UltraJv]

CrystalDiskInfo reads all clear.

DVD reader issue. That's kinda interesting.Hm.

If you download an iso of some significant size, and it's
MD5 checksum, and they match when burning the iso to cd/dvd,
it's likely the dvd burner is not faulty. Good burner softwares have
a verify option, to help against a flawed media.

Usually the drives go and the media is OK giving headaches when you try to install Windows. Drives go out of alignment and give trouble on older disks causing the kind of trouble you get here. Seems to install OK but all sorts of errors after. I have a USB DVD drive to test for this sort of thing.

[glokraw]

That's an affordable insurance policy. My dvd-writer went out
recently, but it was not immediately apparent. The rest of the parts are likely soon to follow. But the tech recyclers have some great
bargains on early i7 boxes. It may be time to enter a relatively
new epoch.

[xNiMiNx]

offline windows update software
http://download.wsusoffline.net/

Id recommend taking advantage of the create iso feature, and burn a copy or two for the future, you never know when you might want to update a win7 install

[fmr]

It's an old and simple business model: bartering

One party surrenders the ability to have secure data i/o
in trade for the 'free' use of windoze 10 on modern motherboards.
Colated data is sold to businesses and governments,
who hope it gives them advantages against adversaries
in their respective areas of interest.

If the bartering angle flops, then windoze '11' will have a $ticker.

Remember, when politicians say 'it's free', it means the taxpayers
have already been looted, and their wealth transferred to the coffers
of control freak bureaucrats, who dole it out like candy,
to buy votes.

Free healthcare, free college, free foodstamps, free housing
yada yada yada
Cheers

Be afraid... Be very afraid... or... The truth is out there

[VariKusBrainZ]

Free healthcare, free college, free foodstamps, free housing
yada yada yada
Cheers

I dont think its free cos they take a chunk of my wages every month.

Though it feels more like a charge for the privilege of having a job as we seem to get less in return as each year passes.

NHS is broken, Police and Fire services have been downsized.

No one can live on a state pension fund in the Uk.

How much of it is going to international 'welfare' Id like to know.

[xNiMiNx]

Free... - yada yada yada

Forbes - Microsoft Reveals Real Cost Of 'Free' Windows 10

[fluffy_little_something]

I think there is something wrong with their patches. I installed this month's updates today and after restarting, my computer was like paralyzed, everything was extremely slow. So I uninstalled all updates again, which took an hour. Now it is back to normal, and I don't feel like installing the updates one at a time in order to find out which one is broken.