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BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:30 pm

If an emulation of a MKS-80 was made one day by Patrick (or whoever else) I'd like it with the look of the MPG-80.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:32 pm

BlackWinny wrote:If an emulation of a MKS-80 was made one day by Patrick (or whoever else) I'd like it with the look of the MPG-80.

I also think that would be the right approach, yes

The MPG-80 was probably the most beautiful controller Roland ever made.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:33 pm

fmr wrote:Then it's a rev 5 (serial # 593471)
Are there different chips inside, or something?

Yep:

MKS-80 rev 4
VCO: CEM3340
VCF: IR3109
VCA: CEM3360

MKS-80 rev 5
VCO: IR3R03
VCF: IR3R05
VCA: IR3R05

Sound is somewhat different between the two. So, hunt for rev 4 for Patrick should continue, and he should model both!

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:38 pm

I was reading about the differences between rev 4 and rev 5, and apparently the main difference resides in the filter chip (rev 4 has the same filter as the Jupiter line, while rev 5 has a more recent chip, that is also present in the MKS-70). Opinions vary about which one is best. As I only have one, that one is the best for me

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:41 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Sound is somewhat different between the two. So, hunt for rev 4 for Patrick should continue, and he should model both!

It's hard for Patrick. As you checked yourself, these aren't around for cheap. I could loan mine for free, but if he was going to rental a rev 4, that could end becoming prohibitively expensive.
Except if someone else would care to cooperate with a rev 4

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:44 pm

fmr wrote:Except if someone else would care to cooperate with a rev 4

That's a venerable idea.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:07 pm

We've got 2 MKS-80's at the shop, 1 rev 4 and 1 rev 5. They're good synths, more similar in sound to a Jupiter 6 than a Jupiter 8. I'd rather get a Jupiter 8 emulation.

knowix · Post by **knowix** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:14 pm

If we're continuing the Roland line of emulation, what about the less obvious stuff like the SH series or even the System 100?

I doubt TAL really wants to be just known for doing Rolands though, right?

fluffy_little_something · Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:20 pm

I suggest the Rhodes Chroma (not the Polaris)

But really, I think it would be better to stop emulating hardware and come up with something original and unique again, like Noizemaker years ago...

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:21 pm

He is moderator of the topic. Maybe he could tell us what are his thoughts about all that...

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:32 pm

knowix wrote:If we're continuing the Roland line of emulation, what about the less obvious stuff like the SH series or even the System 100?

A System 100 would be sweet!!!

I doubt TAL really wants to be just known for doing Rolands though, right?

It's not a bad idea from a marketing standpoint, except that we've now got 2 companies (TAL and D16) focusing on Roland and nobody giving singular focus to Yamaha, Korg, Moog, Sequential Circuits, or ARP.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:08 pm

Uncle E wrote:We've got 2 MKS-80's at the shop, 1 rev 4 and 1 rev 5. They're good synths, more similar in sound to a Jupiter 6 than a Jupiter 8. I'd rather get a Jupiter 8 emulation.

That's strange I see so many people making this assertion. However, I tried to program Jupiter-8 sounds from the patch sheets using the Synthmania as a reference, and I got pretty close results. But I am not familiar with Jupiter-6 though. How different is the sound regarding the Jupiter-8?

And, BTW, why are you neglecting Arturia emulation? I have it, and I consider it very good (although I would like to have a panel dedicated to editing, without the wasted space of the keyboard replica - the same goes for the CS-80 and pretty much all their emulations).

In what concerns System-100, sure, it would be great, but if the MKS-80 is already expensive, imagine how much it would cost to buy such a system. Main problem is either you already have one, and then you can work whenever you want, or you don't, and then emulating it would be almost impossible (except for a blind recreation using circuit schematics, assuming they exist and we have access to them).

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:22 pm

Yamaha CS5/10 would be good....you can pick one up for roughly the same price as a 101.

Cool synth too. Not complex enough for some ppl, but i like the old simple ones. They have great character, and force you to really dive in, often leading to cool unexpected results.

dexterbella · Post by **dexterbella** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:51 pm

fmr wrote:
BlackWinny wrote:If an emulation of a MKS-80 was made one day by Patrick (or whoever else) I'd like it with the look of the MPG-80.
I also think that would be the right approach, yes The MPG-80 was probably the most beautiful controller Roland ever made.

I've been doing a bit of internet research into this synth (inspired by this thread) and I've got to say a massive +1. I'd love to see TAL do an MKS-80 emu with an MPG-80 styled GUI!

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:45 am

There are enough of roland-emu around already. Tons of other cool sounding stuff is not emulated at all.

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