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Custom Stoner Acoustics UD100 based on 24-bit ESS Sabre conversion chip:
Tiny DAC, Big Sound - Impression of Stoner Acoustics UD100 vs. ODAC
http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.fr/

Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> custom UD100 cable >> amp >> headphones


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Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> UD100 USB DAC >> Pico Slim amp >> FitEar TO GO! 334


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Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> HeadStage USB DAC cable >> RSA Protector amp >> JH Audio JH13

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About Android-specific USB audio:
"As of now, the standard Android releases do not include USB host support. Samsung decided to add this feature on their own. The Android folks are working on a funky USB dock protocol that works over USB (sort of like what Apple does) that, frankly, most of us developers think is stupid. There is certainly a push to put USB host support for standard devices (like audio, keyboards, etc.) into the normal Android releases."
[Pete Millett, design engineer from Apex Hi-Fi]
Apex Glacier amp/dac review and appreciation thread

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Samsung Galaxy S III & Apex Glacier:
http://www.ttvjaudio.com/Apex_High_Fi_A ... 000010.htm
http://www.head-fi.org/t/632019/apex-gl ... st_8814974

Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable >> Apex Glacier USB DAC/amp


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Galaxy S III : 13,6 cm * 7 cm * 0,8 cm
Apex Glacier : 11,4 cm * 6,5 cm * 0,9 cm

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Galaxy Note II & Headstage Lyrix Pro USB total :
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8854850

stock Galaxy Note II > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the Note II) >> Headstage Lyrix Pro USB total USB DAC/amp >> Beyerdynamic DT-770 Premium


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I'm sorry, I've just got to say it -

WTF is up with this thread?

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Me too. Maybe I'm missing the point here, but it seems like a huge amount of effort when you could just buy an iPhone?
11, 418th in line to the KVR throne

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You have the right to buy an Apple iPhone and one of a few expensive iPhone-compliant USB DACs which are not compatible with your PC or your Apple Mac.
http://www.aloaudio.com/cypher-labs-alg ... -pre-order
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HPP1
http://v-moda.com/vamp/
...

The Apple authentication coprocessor imposed in every iPhone-compliant USB DAC won't improve the sound quality of the DAC, but it's certainly the root cause of the expensive price.

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Others have the right to promote standard USB audio.
The standard USB audio forces competition on price and quality.
The standard USB DACs compatible with Android phones can also work with PC or Apple Mac.


A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note II:

stock Galaxy Note II > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the Note II) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8771744

. GoVibe Magnum (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.head-fi.org/t/324577/review- ... sb-dac-amp
http://www.head-fi.org/t/633201/confirm ... st_8809248

. HeadAmp Pico (USB DAC/amp): (via USB 2.0 hub)
http://www.headamp.com/pico/pico_dac_amp/index.htm
http://www.head-fi.org/t/625054/samsung ... st_8774905

. Headstage Lyrix Pro USB total (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headphonia.com/Amps/Headstag ... 10071.html
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8854850

. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8750862

. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/625054/samsung ... st_8777791

. MyST 1866 PortaDAC (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.musicaacoustics.com/wp/amplifiers/myst-1866/
http://player.ru/showthread.php?t=74459 ... ost1084707

. Objective DAC (ODAC):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-pro ... e-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8758515

. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-pro ... h-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop ... 0527192048
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8758515

. RSA Intruder (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/intruder
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8819856

. Sony PHA-1 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.touchmyapps.com/2012/10/09/s ... in-review/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8769593

. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp):
http://venturecraft.jp/gadget_en/index.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8769593


So far, like the quad-core Exynos powered Galaxy S III, the new quad-core Exynos powered Samsung Galaxy Note II can work with the FiiO E7, the iBasso D12, Leckerton UHA-6S MKII, the ODAC and the VentureCraft Go-Dap X; has some issue with the HeadAmp Pico; and doesn't work with the FiiO E17.

So, in regard to standard USB audio, the behaviour of the Galaxy Note II is likely identical to the behaviour of the Galaxy SIII.


A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S III:

stock Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the S III) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

. AMB Gamma 1:
http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma1/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8750043

. AMB Gamma 2:
http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma2/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=279

. Apex Glacier (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ttvjaudio.com/Apex_High_Fi_A ... 000010.htm
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8776449

. Asus Xonar U3 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_U3/
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread. ... ost8551119

. Behringer UCA202 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8654226

. Behringer UCA222 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.behringer.com/en/Products/UCA222.aspx
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-da ... post171651

. Beresford Caiman:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio- ... 787/review
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-da ... post171651

. C-Media chipset-based sound card Dynamode 7 channel USB 2.0 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.chinacomputerparts.com/d-p11 ... 00-cables/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=449

. Cakewalk Sonar SPS 25:
https://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/rea ... 2007013101
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-da ... post171651

. Corsair HS1 Gaming headset (USB DAC/amp/headphones):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3989/cors ... ng-headset
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... st27238117

. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/07/galaxy ... art-2.html

. Furutech ADL Cruise (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.furutech.com/a2008/product2.asp?prodNo=399
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8567838

. GoVibe DAC:
http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=2824.0
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showt ... ry53317360

. GoVibe Mini USB DAC:
http://www.jaben.com.au/collections/go- ... be-minidac
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally ... st_8525675

. GoVibe Petite (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.head-fi.org/t/290711/govibe- ... tle-update
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8552452

. HRT HeadStreamer (USB DAC/amp):
http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/headstreamer
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8677483

. HRT Music Streamer II:
http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/music-streamer-ii
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8534856

. HeadAmp Pico (USB DAC/amp): (Exynos-based S III connected to Pico via USB 2.0 hub)
http://www.headamp.com/pico/pico_dac_amp/index.htm
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8539705
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8688938
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8638606

. HeadRoom Total BitHead (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headphone.com/learning-cente ... ad-faq.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8527516

. HeadStage USB DAC cable:
http://www.inearmatters.net/2010/04/sho ... cable.html
http://www.headphiles.org/index.php/top ... #msg241979

. HiFiMan Express HM-101:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/571330/hifiman ... le-usb-dac
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=291

. iBasso D-Zero (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=73
http://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... t=20#p1636

. iBasso D2 Boa (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=30
http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/picture ... st_8509186

. iBasso D2+ Boa (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=42
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-da ... post171651

. iBasso D5 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.head-fi.org/t/556490/ibasso- ... sb-dac-amp
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally ... st_8462693

. iBasso D10 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=39
http://www.head-fi.org/t/628374/samsung ... st_8735134

. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=924

. iQube v2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.i-qube.nl/index.php?id=24
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... count=1268

. JH Audio JH-3A (USB DSP/DAC/amp/JH16 CIEM):
http://www.jhaudio.com/product/jh-3a-ds ... ar-monitor
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8799910

. Jabra GN 5035 (USB headset):
http://reviews.cnet.com/headsets/jabra- ... 62996.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... count=1368

. KingRex UD-01:
http://www.kingrex.co.uk/dac.html
https://www.facebook.com/headfonia/post ... 7358128700

. Leckerton UHA-4 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-4/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/536982/leckert ... st_8773152

. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/602493/new-lec ... st_8698006

. M-Audio Duo USB Audio Interface:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct02/a ... maudio.asp
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8788814

. Matrix Mini-i (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headfonia.com/matrix-mini-i-balanced-dac/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8768166

. Meier Audio Cantate.2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.head-fi.org/products/meier-a ... -cantate-2
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8820899

. Microsoft Philips Digital Sound System 80 (USB DAC/amp/speakers):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Sound_System_80
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... ?t=1703218

. Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 (USB headset):
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-au ... /JUG-00003
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... count=1355

. MyST 1866 PortaDAC (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.head-fi.org/t/616889/myst-18 ... ons-thread
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8852573

. NuForce Icon HDP (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.nuforce.com/hp/products/iconhdp/index.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson ... st_8567838

. NuForce Icon Mobile (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/nufo ... obile.html
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8759826

. Objective DAC (ODAC):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-pro ... e-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8707637

. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-pro ... h-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop ... 0527192048
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?s ... 8276945555

. Ordnance .25 (USB DAC/amp):
http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=9984.0
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally ... st_8462693

. RSA Intruder (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/intruder
http://www.head-fi.org/t/627080/new-bal ... st_8781567

. RSA Predator (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/predator
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8538933

. Stoner Acoustics UD100:
http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.fr/
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showt ... ry54596977

. Syba SD-AUD20101:
http://www.sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=1191
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8736082

. Topping D1 Mark 2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://bit.ly/PBMwsx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... tcount=871

. Topping D2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.mightybigword.com/tnt/2012/0 ... ac-review/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpos ... count=1357

. Topping TP30 (USB DAC/amp):
http://news.cnet.com/8300-5_3-0.html?ke ... ping+TP-30
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/05/samsun ... audio.html

. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp):
http://venturecraft.jp/gadget_jp/gdx.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8708233

. xDuoo XP-1 (USB DAC/amp):
http://bit.ly/UYfTGB
http://bit.ly/Yda7jf

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Oh, well of course - silly me! That clears everything up!

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Samsung Galaxy S III & planar magnetic Audeze LCD-2:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android ... st_8873554

stock Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the Note II) >> RSA Intruder USB DAC/amp >> Audeze LCD-2 headphones


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"The LCD-2's sound phenomenal in balanced mode off the Intruder... Yum."

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mojofunk wrote:Oh, well of course - silly me! That clears everything up!
That's what Apple products are for... those for whom it's just too much to actually know how stuff works.
Canartic
downtempo.dub.psychedelic.twang
lossless downloads here...

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The us$43 Samsung Galaxy S3 + Car Stereo Upgrade for WAaaY better sound quality!
http://www.head-fi.org/t/639883/the-43- ... nd-quality

Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> "USB OTG" cable >> Behringer UCA202 USB DAC >> car stereo amp >> car stereo speakers

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And so what are the results you ask?

HOLY MOLY!
Not only is the audio quality MUCH improved, but the sound is so CLEAN now. No clicks, burps, or any other weird background noises. Just straight CD quality background silence.
Even my GPS voice sounds prettier. hahah
Bass is tighter and deeper. Highs are more revealing. Everything is so much better that a novice could tell it sounds better.

And yes, GPS navigation works perfectly. If I'm listening to Pandora or an MP3 and my GPS needs to talk, then my music will go several db quieter and GPS will speak up, then afterwards the music will automatically go back to full volume.

Also, one thing I hated about Bluetooth was everytime I turned my car off for just a minute, when I would power it back on the Bluetooth would not consistently reconnect. Well, this USB-OTG has been very consistent for me so far. Music just picks back up where it left off at and is fairly quick to do so.

Cons? Well, I haven't tested hands free calling yet. But I'm told it doesn't work with this USB-OTG to DAC configuration. Maybe there is a bluetooth solution for that. I dunno? And AOSP does not yet support DACs.

Pros? Freakin everything.

Pics are below.


Here is the DAC and the USB-OTG cable:
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This is how you configure the DAC.
You can probably also use the headphones output instead of the stereo RCA, but I didn't try it.
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I wired up my USB-OTG cable to my iBOLT dock. It comes up through my dash defrost vents.
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This is what the three connectors on the USB-OTG cable look like:
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Here is the DAC being wired up. I taped up the non-used RCA's to prevent anything bugging with them.
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I wrapped up the DAC with DUCT tape.
Not sure how or why the pic is sideways. It looks normal on my desktop.
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Hid it behind my dash.
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Here is the USB-OTG cable with my iBOLT dock.
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The car stereo w/audio cable attached. Some car stereos have the 3.5mm connector in the back. Or a dual-RCA input. I'd prefer one of those to have a cleaner install. Maybe someday I'll upgrade my car stereo.
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And here is the finished product. My S3 docked, charging and outputing beautiful digital music!
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.." [CZ Eddie]

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Unique Melody Platform Pure 6 & Samsung Galaxy S3 using USB Audio Recorder PRO:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/613417/unique- ... st_8965862

music stored on stock Galaxy S3 > USB Audio Recorder PRO player > digital USB audio out >> "USB OTG" cable >> Unique Melody PP6 > custom IEM

"You have no idea how happy I am right now."


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danbroad wrote: Maybe I'm missing the point here, but it seems like a huge amount of effort when you could just buy an iPhone?
Maybe you want to use widgets? Set default applications? Have actual communication between programs? Install apps from wherever you want and test betas? Maybe you want to get fancy and set a live wallpaper? Maybe you'd really like to use replacement keyboards such as Swype and Swift key?

Yeah, why not just get an iPhone?

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24-bit / 96kHz lossless music and USB Audio Recoder PRO:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... RlcnBybyJd
http://www.linnrecords.com/recording-highwire.aspx


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music stored on Samsung Galaxy S3 > USB Audio Recorder PRO player >> ODAC >> amp >> headphones

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Anyone know of any plans of an audio midi interface for the android Kindle fire?

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