Sequence the Electribe iPad App?

[NaturalDissolve]

Is there anyway to sequence the electribe iPad app? I was very disappointed to realize there was no song mode.

[gdog]

Hi NaturalDissolve,

Beatmaker 2, Genome, Midi Pattern Sequencer - just some of your options. All the best. <3

[NaturalDissolve]

Thanks man, nice cause I already have beat maker 2. Hopefully I can figure it out. Any tips?

[polaris20]

Thanks man, nice cause I already have beat maker 2. Hopefully I can figure it out. Any tips?

I do believe Electrivibe is Audiobus-compatible, as is BM2. So if you get Audiobus (an amazing app, btw), it'll allow you to pipe Electrivibe into BM2.

Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yIbKW3Q3MY

http://www.youtube.com/user/audiobusapp

[NaturalDissolve]

I tried audiobus and think it's only for audio. I want to send a midi signal to change the pattern in the Electribe. I'll probably use audio bus to record on top with animoog.

[Nightpolymath]

I don't believe there is a way to sequence iElectribe via Midi.

[mbncp]

I don't believe there is a way to sequence iElectribe via Midi.

iELECTRIBE v1.2 adds MIDI control capabilities by using the Apple Core MIDI features found in iOS 4.2, via the Apple iPad Camera Connection Kit and external USB-MIDI devices.

Please note

MIDI channel is fixed on 10ch.
Please update your iPad to iOS 4.2 or later.
The Apple iPad Camera Connection Kit is required.
Some USB bus-powered MIDI devices need a USB hub with power supply.
Please set up the MIDI settings on your external USB-MIDI device.
General MIDI Control

Note / Bank Select / Program Change

You can trigger and produce drum sounds by using an external pad's USB-MIDI controllers. Also, you can change a pattern via Bank Select and Program Change.

Status Second (hex) Third Description
9n kk (kkh) vv Note On / vv=1-127 ※1
Bn 00 (00h) mm Program Bank Select (MSB) ※2
Bn 32 (20h) bb Program Bank Select (LSB) ※2
Cn pp (pph) -- Program Change ※2
※1 Note Number

Part Note Number : FIXED -- --
Synth 1 36 (C2)
Synth 2 38 (D2)
Synth 3 40 (E2)
Synth 4 41 (F2)
HH Closed 42 (F#2)
HH Open 46 (A#2)
Cymbal 49 (C#3)
Clap/Snare 39 (D#2)
※2 Pattern Number

Bank Pattern Number mm bb pp (hex)
A 01-32 00 00 0-31 (00h-1Fh)
B 01-32 00 00 32-63 (20h-3Fh)
C 01-32 00 00 64-95 (40h-5Fh)
D 01-32 00 00 96-127 (60h-7Fh)
E 01-32 00 01 0-31 (00h-1Fh)
Control Change

Various parameters can be controlled by Control Change.

CC Parameter Value Remarks
1 Accent Level 0-127
2 Accent Motion Seq Type 0-2
3 Cross Mod. 0-1
4 Swing 50-75
5 Laststep 1-16
6 Length 1-4
7 Stop / Start / Loop / Rec 0 / 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 Stop / Start / Loop Off / Loop On / Rec Off / Rec On
8 PatternSet Select 0-63 / Otherwise: Ignore
9 Solo 0-7 / Otherwise: Solo Off
10 Tube Gain 0-127
11 Master Level 0-127
12 FX Type 0-7
13 FX Edit1 0-127
14 FX Edit2 0-127
15 Synth 1 Pitch 0-127
16 Synth 1 Waveform 0-3
17 Synth 1 Mod Depth 0-127
18 Synth 1 Mod Speed 0-127
19 Synth 1 Mod Type 0-5
20 Synth 1 Decay 0-127
21 Synth 1 Level 0-127
22 Synth 1 Panpot 0-127
23 Synth 1 Low Boost 0-127
24 Synth 1 Motion Seq Type 0-2
25 Synth 1 Mute 0: Off / Otherwise: On
26 Synth 1 Effect 0-1
27 Synth 1 Accent 0-1
28 Synth 2 Pitch 0-127
29 Synth 2 Waveform 0-3
30 Synth 2 Mod Depth 0-127
31 Synth 2 Mod Speed 0-127
32 -- --
33 Synth 2 Mod Type 0-5
34 Synth 2 Decay 0-127
35 Synth 2 Level 0-127
36 Synth 2 Panpot 0-127
37 Synth 2 Low Boost 0-127
38 Synth 2 Motion Seq Type 0-2
39 Synth 2 Mute 0: Off / Otherwise: On
40 Synth 2 Effect 0-1
41 Synth 2 Accent 0-1
42 Synth 3 Pitch 0-127
43 Synth 3 Waveform 0-3
44 Synth 3 Mod Depth 0-127
45 Synth 3 Mod Speed 0-127
46 Synth 3 Mod Type 0-5
47 Synth 3 Decay 0-127
48 Synth 3 Level 0-127
49 Synth 3 Panpot 0-127
50 Synth 3 Low Boost 0-127
51 Synth 3 Motion Seq Type 0-2
52 Synth 3 Mute 0: Off / Otherwise: On
53 Synth 3 Effect 0-1
54 Synth 3 Accent 0-1
55 Synth 4 Pitch 0-127
56 Synth 4 Waveform 0-3
57 Synth 4 Mod Depth 0-127
58 Synth 4 Mod Speed 0-127
59 Synth 4 Mod Type 0-5
60 Synth 4 Decay 0-127
61 Synth 4 Level 0-127
62 Synth 4 Panpot 0-127
63 Synth 4 Low Boost 0-127
64 Synth 4 Motion Seq Type 0-2
65 Synth 4 Mute 0: Off / Otherwise: On
66 Synth 4 Effect 0-1
67 Synth 4 Accent 0-1
68 HH Closed : Pitch 0-127
69 HH Closed : Waveform 0-3
70 HH Closed : Mod Depth 0-127
71 HH Closed : Mod Speed 0-127
72 HH Closed : Mod Type 0-5
73 HH Closed : Decay 0-127
74 HH Closed : Level 0-127
75 HH Closed : Panpot 0-127
76 HH Closed : Low Boost 0-127
77 HH Closed : Motion Seq Type 0-2
78 HH Closed : Mute 0: Off / Otherwise: On
79 HH Closed : Effect 0-1
80 HH Closed : Accent 0-1
81 HH Open : Pitch 0-127
82 HH Open : Waveform 0-3
83 HH Open : Mod Depth 0-127
84 HH Open : Mod Speed 0-127
85 HH Open : Mod Type 0-5
86 HH Open : Decay 0-127
87 HH Open : Level 0-127
88 HH Open : Panpot 0-127
89 HH Open : Low Boost 0-127
90 HH Open : Motion Seq Type 0-2
91 HH Open : Mute 0: Off / Otherwise: On
92 HH Open : Effect 0-1
93 HH Open : Accent 0-1
94 Cymbal : Pitch 0-127
95 Cymbal : Waveform 0-3
96 Cymbal : Mod Depth 0-127
97 Cymbal : Mod Speed 0-127
98 Cymbal : Mod Type 0-5
99 Cymbal : Decay 0-127
100 Cymbal : Level 0-127
101 Cymbal : Panpot 0-127
102 Cymbal : Low Boost 0-127
103 Cymbal : Motion Seq Type 0-2
104 Cymbal : Mute 0: Off / Otherwise: On
105 Cymbal : Effect 0-1
106 Cymbal : Accent 0-1
107 Clap/Snare : Pitch 0-127
108 Clap/Snare : Waveform 0-3
109 Clap/Snare : Mod Depth 0-127
110 Clap/Snare : Mod Speed 0-127
111 Clap/Snare : Mod Type 0-5
112 Clap/Snare : Decay 0-127
113 Clap/Snare : Level 0-127
114 Clap/Snare : Panpot 0-127
115 Clap/Snare : Low Boost 0-127
116 Clap/Snare : Motion Seq Type 0-2
117 Clap/Snare : Mute 0: Off / Otherwise: On
118 Clap/Snare : Effect 0-1
119 Clap/Snare : Accent 0-1
System Real-time Message

Start and Stop can be controlled by receiving MIDI clock via external USB-MIDI devices.

Status (hex) Description -- --
F8 Timing Clock
FA Start
FC Stop

[NaturalDissolve]

Thank you! That is helpful. I could use my mpc 500 to sequence it.

Is there there really no way to send it midi from app to app?

Still this is still really annoying. This could have been solved if they included song mode. Hopefully we will see an update with song mode soon.

[cyberheater]

Hopefully we will see an update with song mode soon.

I really doubt it. I think they deliberately withheld the song mode just to give you a taste of an electribe because they didn't want it to cut into the hardware sale.

I've owned quite a few electribes over the years. They are all good.

[NaturalDissolve]

Well I gave it a 1 star review cause of no song mode. Hopefully they will fix it. Korg needs to come out with a new Electribe anyway. One that is not based on the archaic smart media.

I found this:

http://www.iosmusician.com/2012/08/beat ... rough.html

Gonna try it tonight. Sounds like genome might handle virtual midi better. Anyone tried it?

[mbncp]

Thank you! That is helpful. I could use my mpc 500 to sequence it.

Is there there really no way to send it midi from app to app?

Still this is still really annoying. This could have been solved if they included song mode. Hopefully we will see an update with song mode soon.

You can use app to app or whatever, don't know why they insist about using the camera kit, I think pretty much any midi port will do, just make sure you send the data on channel 10.

You could emulate song mode by triggering different program change midi messages from a sequencer and midi clock to keep things synchronised.
A bit wierd that they have a song mode on their synth but not on electribe.

[NaturalDissolve]

Ok cool, getting closer. Can't get beatmaker to send the correct signal. I guess it's some weird hex code? Was hoping I could just hit the key in the korg. Maybe I have the midi routed wrong. Beatmaker will trigger the korg, so that's a start. It doesn't start at the beginning though, which is weird.

[mbncp]

First make sure that midi out is checked and electribe is used as midi out port. (Options-midi)
If you want to send the notes from bm2 don't send the clock or this will play the electribe patterns.

Make sure you set the output channel to 10 on the instrument or drum machine track.
Then hit the keys or pads(bank C) and you should hear the electribe.

Not sure bm2 is the best app for that, kind of sucks imo, but then it may be user limitation as I never use it.

[mbncp]

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Bank	Pattern Number	mm	bb	pp (hex) 
A	01-32	00	00	0-31 
B	01-32	00	00	32-63 
C	01-32	00	00	64-95 
D	01-32	00	00	96-127 
E	01-32	00	01	0-31  

To trigger a pattern change you need to send 3 messages, always on channel 10.

cc0 = 0
cc32 =0 except for bank E where cc32=1
then send a program change value 0 to 31

example to trigger C2:
CC0=0. CC32=0 PC=65

to trigger E20:
CC0=0. CC32=1 PC=19

By default Genome doesn't have CC0 and CC32 in the list, but you can add them using the plus button.

Now I'm not sure in which order Genome will send them, so it's probably better to add these at different time, one on beat 1, then on beat 2 and the patch change on beat 3 and configure electribe to change pattern on the next beat or bar to keep things tight.

If you work only with one bank you may as well use a pattern in genome to set both CC and then you just need to send the program change message.

Also make sure genome sends the midi out clock.

[des]

There is a pretty good video of mSequencer controlling iElectribe...does some pretty cool things.

Here's the support page: http://msequencer.blogspot.com/