Annoying & childish, yes, but having multiple accounts is not against KvR rules.Extended FAQ & Rules wrote:General Forum Rules
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Multiple accounts
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7562 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
It's not listed there but I'm pretty sure Ben has publicly said it was no longer acceptable, likely about the time we could no longer change our account names at will. When misused, they definitely aren't allowed.
If Ben says I'm wrong about this, of course I will retract. I'm going by memory and my memory is notoriously flaky.
If Ben says I'm wrong about this, of course I will retract. I'm going by memory and my memory is notoriously flaky.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7562 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
I'm pretty sure Ben hasn't been AWOL since late '11, so why is there no rule #6 yet?
Dupe accounts are stupid, but “Well, yeah, I can't find the comment right now but I'm pretty sure he said something roughly like that, once upon a time” is a fuсktarded policy for banning people.
Dupe accounts are stupid, but “Well, yeah, I can't find the comment right now but I'm pretty sure he said something roughly like that, once upon a time” is a fuсktarded policy for banning people.
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- Banned
- 1020 posts since 11 Aug, 2002
Nah, banning them is a fine thing to do. Multi id sock puppets add nothing. Cut them off at the ankles. 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7562 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
Well, yeah, but that's not the point.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Not about multiple accounts, but i'm pretty floored atm that it's so easy to come back as a new user, when you got banned here, and escape the clutches of the mods here. I think KVR is in serious lack of mods who read through topics here, and sort things, and users out. Seriously, the person i talk about here, i reported him 10 times now i think with his various aliases, and he keeps coming back again and again, sometimes weeks or months without even being noticed, even though it's so obvious that it screams at you. Come on, this is seriously weak, i really would expect some more professionality from such a large site and forum.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
think about what it says about the person, some people make complete jerks of themselves so they completely reinvent themselves and come back under a new name (and often do it again). It use to outrage me and for years I had one such person stalking me under different names and under the first name I knew him as I thought we were friends.
Now I realize the truth is that the problem is not me nor is it my problem, it is imo a problem for KvR and I do think it should not be tolerated. For me it causes extreme trust issues and tbh as a result I would only do business in the marketplace with well established members for this very reason. I think it's quite juvenile and tbh cowardly, in real life you cannot unring the bell so why would you here? It certainly is not one's finest moment when they choose this type of behavior but that's not my problem.
However, blaming the mods is not the answer. There are too many posters and not enough mods. Mods do this as courtesy and really have no obligation, they also have lives and to spend hours weeding through thousands of users comparing ip addresses is an unreasonable expectation.
So what can be done? First try to look at it from the angle that it may be an annoyance for you but it is the sockpuppet who really has the issue. Second report it to a mod, perhaps the report button is not the best way so try sending them a PM (though I am assuming you have already tried this). Finally, ignore them, it's likely their attention span is that of their maturity level and eventually they will move on.
Sadly it is true this does bring down KvR but KvR is not alone, many sites are hurt by this behavior. It would be nice if there were a device that would go through membership lists and flag sockpuppets but as it does not appear to be a priority the best thing to do is to just ride it out...this too will pass
Now I realize the truth is that the problem is not me nor is it my problem, it is imo a problem for KvR and I do think it should not be tolerated. For me it causes extreme trust issues and tbh as a result I would only do business in the marketplace with well established members for this very reason. I think it's quite juvenile and tbh cowardly, in real life you cannot unring the bell so why would you here? It certainly is not one's finest moment when they choose this type of behavior but that's not my problem.
However, blaming the mods is not the answer. There are too many posters and not enough mods. Mods do this as courtesy and really have no obligation, they also have lives and to spend hours weeding through thousands of users comparing ip addresses is an unreasonable expectation.
So what can be done? First try to look at it from the angle that it may be an annoyance for you but it is the sockpuppet who really has the issue. Second report it to a mod, perhaps the report button is not the best way so try sending them a PM (though I am assuming you have already tried this). Finally, ignore them, it's likely their attention span is that of their maturity level and eventually they will move on.
Sadly it is true this does bring down KvR but KvR is not alone, many sites are hurt by this behavior. It would be nice if there were a device that would go through membership lists and flag sockpuppets but as it does not appear to be a priority the best thing to do is to just ride it out...this too will pass
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
the difference is when you do not know that you are talking to the same person, then it can become deceitful and possibly appear as if someone is trying to make a fool of you. There have been examples of members who work for companies and have a personal account and a business account, they make it clear that they are one and the same person. The problem arises when one uses multiple accounts to troll other members, one can attack someone without taking responsible for such attack in this manner and that to me is quite out of line. Take my example of the market place, what if someone was known for not being quick with shipping an item or transferring a license so they changed their name because they had a bad rep, I suspect you would want to know the truth before doing business with the person.
I try to behave online like I do in real life. In real life I can say here is my business email, here is my personal email or I can give someone my cell phone and my work phone but I cannot be someone else entirely. Doing so online imho (you may feel different, this is just how I feel) is quite disrespectful and I surely would not do it to someone else. Honor and being trustworthy are qualities that matter a lot to me. I will have far more respect for the person who admits their err than the one who denies it by denying who they are just to avoid admitting their err.
I try to behave online like I do in real life. In real life I can say here is my business email, here is my personal email or I can give someone my cell phone and my work phone but I cannot be someone else entirely. Doing so online imho (you may feel different, this is just how I feel) is quite disrespectful and I surely would not do it to someone else. Honor and being trustworthy are qualities that matter a lot to me. I will have far more respect for the person who admits their err than the one who denies it by denying who they are just to avoid admitting their err.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRian
- 1145 posts since 29 Jun, 2012
