Questions about WAVEFORM 9

[mexxomix]

hi guys

im interested in waveform 9 for sound design stuff

when i buy the waveform 9 ultimate pack
is the
waverazor synth included ?

i hope so
otherwise its a deal breaker for me

[MBO]

otherwise

[whyterabbyt]

Deal broken. The webpage tells you exactly what's in the bundle. Go to

https://www.tracktion.com/products/waveform

and click on Buy Now to see.

[mexxomix]

yes i saw it before
but i hope it cames with the bundle

so i think about to buy reason instead

i like it for the biotek 2
i know i can order it as a vst but im looking for a complete package
so sad to hear this

i think the daw is way to expensive
would be the waverazor included in the ultimate pack i would buy this
but not without it

so dear tracktion team
think about your price politcs

[whyterabbyt]

so dear tracktion team
think about your price politcs

Tracktion sell WaveRazor but they dont make it.

[mexxomix]

however they give you no discount or bundle price
you must buy it seperate for the full price

i think its a pity that is not included
for that price
i expected more

so thanks guys for the answers

but then i buy Reason 10 it comes with al lot of content

[MBO]

Or wait for Black Friday or some occasional earlier sale when you can get everything for 50%. Happens from time to time so far.

[mexxomix]

thank you ''MBO''

im a amateur sound designer
and a student so i dont have much money to spend

i think waveform 9 its a wonderfull daw for it
but i dont understand that this is not included
with waverazor it feels completed for sound design i demo it

so im out
but thanks for the info

[MBO]

You're welcome.

Waverazor is - IMHO - very inspiring and original but crafted for a certain type of sounds, so you would definitely need another tools like instruments in Reason, Native Instruments plugins, Ableton Live internal instruments etc. These are expensive options but regarded as the industrial standards. But there is a lot of free plugins which let you create almost everything you need. Another option when comes to a sound design are tools like CSound or SuperCollider - specialized programming languages - also for free. Sorry if I'm writing here obvious things

[gesslr]

WaveRazor is very interesting but very specific in the “type” of sound it creates IMHO. Very digital. BioTek is exceedingly deep and versatile, and Waveform has a lot of tools for sound design that are unique (e.g. efx clips, racks), a great modulation system, very flexible routing, etc. All of this contributes to sound design possibilities and workflow.

Make sure you aren’t letting your disappointment about WaveRazor cloud your judgment too much!

That said, Reason10 has a lot of content, and it’s patchable system approach can yield some wonderful results if you really dive into it. It’s performance with 3rd party VSTs leaves a lot to be desired. (It isn’t very CPU efficient.) But you can get a lot done.

If you are a student and you happen to be on a Mac, don’t overlook Logic. For the price, there is a lot of value.