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What to include in first eurorack build?

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Postby modularkvraccount; Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:05 pm What to include in first eurorack build?

I'm sure this question gets asked on here at least once a week but I'm gonna ask it anyway. What kind of modules would you guys recommend for my first eurorack synth? I am interested in designing a synthesizer that is capable of interesting sound design. I'm more so interested in all the pieces and parts of a synth than any analog effects (at least for the moment). I have a eurorack case and it has the ability to hold only 60HP, I assume that relates to the power supply but am not sure. This is my first synthesizer so I do not have any modules as of currently.

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Postby ghettosynth; Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:11 pm Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

I would definitely want an anechoic room simulator, that's like modular 101 right there.
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Postby modularkvraccount; Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:30 pm Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

ghettosynth wrote:I would definitely want an anechoic room simulator, that's like modular 101 right there.


An echo free room simulator? Hmm those look a bit pricey, do you think I could use an analog silence generator instead?
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Postby modularkvraccount; Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:35 pm Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

I didn't mean to make a second comment. Is there no way to delete comments on here?
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Postby whyterabbyt; Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:06 am Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

modularkvraccount wrote:I didn't mean to make a second comment. Is there no way to delete comments on here?


nah, but double-posts are just a fact of life here so dont worry about it.

60HP refers to the capacity of the rack in width, not anything power related. Modules are X HP wide, where X is 1/5 of an inch. Modules can be all sorts of widths, 2HP will be the narrowest you'd find. Typical modules used to be 8-12HP, now they tend to be wider, and some of the sequencers and very complex ones can be 48 or wider.
Choosing modules that fit can be an issue in and of itself. But have a look over at modulargrid.net a good tool to help yourself plan.
Your power supply output is also something you'll have to plan around, its rated for a certain number of milliamps, and each module will need a certain amount. modulargrid will help with that too.

If you're talking basic subtractive synthesis, your obvious starting point would be an oscillator, a filter and a modulation source. But that's still an awful lot of scope so unfortunately hard to second-guess what sort of thing would suite someone else without more information.
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Postby foosnark; Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:52 am Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

There are so many possibilities, and preferences are so personal, that it can be hard to find (or recommend) a starting point.

Without going into too much detail: ModularGrid.net is fantastic for seeing what modules are out there, which ones are popular, what combinations of things people have in their racks, and planning module selection and arrangement. From there, anything that looks promising, search for it on YouTube and the MuffWiggler forums to see how it sounds, how it works, and what people think of it. (DivKid, Mylar Melodies and James Cigler are really good YouTubers for modular stuff.)

60HP is quite small and it's going to be a challenge to fit a nice general sound design system. You could go with something like Make Noise DPO, Maths and Dynamix, or Harvestman Hertz Donut, Double Andore and Rabid Elephant Natural Gate with a Disting mk4 and Happy Nerding 3xMIA, or perhaps Make Noise Rings, Tides, Warps and Shades plus a Disting. At any rate: one good flexible modular voice would consist of at least two VCO/LFOs, 1-2 envelopes, and at least two VCAs/LPGs, plus attenuation, offsets and mixing. In 60HP it'll take some careful selection to get that.
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Postby foosnark; Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:17 am Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

Also with a small case like that, you might be well served by getting a semi-modular such as 0-Coast or Mother-32, and then using the case to add modules to enhance the basics that are already there.
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Postby deastman; Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:27 am Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

Definitely jump over to Muffwiggler. There is a sticky topic dedicated entirely to this question, and a lot more modular users than you’ll find on here.
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Postby skipscada; Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:41 am Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

foosnark wrote:Also with a small case like that, you might be well served by getting a semi-modular such as 0-Coast or Mother-32, and then using the case to add modules to enhance the basics that are already there.


I agree, but Doepfer's suggestions are also safe bets:

http://www.doepfer.de/a100s_e.htm
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Postby Ben Martin; Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:03 am Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

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Postby S0lo; Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:10 am Re: What to include in first eurorack build?

here is more or less what I personally started with. Note that some of these modules already have newer versions by now.

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Tiptop Audio: Z3000 Smart VCO MK2
Intellijel Designs: Dixie II
Bubblesound: uLFO
Pittsburgh Modular: Generator
Pittsburgh Modular: Genxpander
Pittsburgh Modular: Filter
Pittsburgh Modular: Mixer
Make Noise: ModDemix
Intellijel Designs: uVCA
a-101-1 Doepfer Vactrol Multitype Filter
a-143-2 Doepfer: A-143-2 Quad ADSR
a-118 Doepfer: A-118 Noise

You can make a big bang for the buck by staying with Doepfer and Pittsburgh as they are more of the cheaper side of things. Specially that you are still learning this stuff and you need lots of bread and butter modules. Latter on, you can slowly build and take on more complex and expensive modules. (Not saying here that cheap modules can't be complex or good. they definitely can).

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