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NyquistEq poll

How many bands should NyquistEq have?

3 (like it is now)
9
8%
4
4
4%
5
33
30%
5
33
30%
6
15
14%
7 or more
15
14%
 
Total votes : 109
magnus@se
KVRist
 
74 posts since 19 Jan, 2003, from New York

Postby magnus@se; Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:16 am NyquistEq poll

Recently many people have asked me for more bands in NyquistEq, so I thought I'd start a poll: How many bands should NyquistEq have? The tradeoff involved is: more bands give more shaping flexibility but also more graphical clutter.

When a clear pattern is visible I will make a new release of NyquistEq.

For those of you unfamiliar with NyquistEq: It is a parametric graphic equalizer, downloadable at http://magnus.smartelectronix.com/.

Cheers,
Magnus Jonsson ^ Smex
mauseoleum
KVRAF
 
1926 posts since 29 Oct, 2003

Postby mauseoleum; Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:02 am

my proposition:

1) keep the 3band version as it is now as NyquistEQ LITE

2) for the *PRO* :P version, I'd suggest 5-6 band version.

just a sidenote: plugin BACKGROUND could be a bit brighter?
silicon/silicium
KVRAF
 
1811 posts since 13 Jul, 2004

Postby silicon/silicium; Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:12 am

maybe you could add a way to hide each band curve without disablint it, and a way to change band type without using cc (gui button??).
whatever the number of band, the best in this plug in is its excellent musicality and its cpu friendliness (nw word??)!!
stefancrs
KVRAF
 
4630 posts since 20 Feb, 2004, from Gothenburg, Sweden

Postby stefancrs; Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:49 am

Keep the background black. I like black. It gives clarity when being in contrast with the bright curves.

And, as you already know, I want 5 bands. I often do

lo cut, a boost somewhere around 100hz, a cut around 200-400 hz, a boost around 1khz-2khz, a boost in the highs. :)
Stefan H Singer
Musician, coder and co-founder of We made you look Web agency
mauseoleum
KVRAF
 
1926 posts since 29 Oct, 2003

Postby mauseoleum; Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:44 am

too much contrast hurts eyes PLUS the freq grid could be A BIT more pronounced AND marked with 100hz, 1k and 10k. and maybe a decibel here and there. so it won't be crowded.

i second prop about adding a separate page to access the *hidden* params - it's a nobrainer in host which allows for no-gui mode, but in hosts which don't, this would be a big bonus.

(darkers wear black :P )
Last edited by mauseoleum on Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
guido01
KVRist
 
172 posts since 24 Sep, 2003, from Wales

Postby guido01; Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:28 am

Lo and Hi shelving in addition to the 3 existing bands would be cool.

Guido
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DuX
KVRAF
 
3381 posts since 14 Mar, 2002, from Underworld

Postby DuX; Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:10 am

It's an excellent EQ, only lacking frequency markings, at least 5 bands and a button or two for changing EQ types. OTOH, you could solve that like Voxengo plugins, CTRL+left click or something, without cluttering the extremely nice GUI. And yes, shelving type EQ would be nice, of course :D . 3bands are enough for tweaking mids, maybe you could just add low and high shelves and that's it :D .

Cheers.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
shamann
KVRAF
 
12250 posts since 18 Aug, 2003

Postby shamann; Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:52 pm

Hi Magnus,

As you know, I love this plug. So my vote would be not to get carried away with too many changes. I don't think that it needs to fill every need, there are after all many, many EQs available.

I like the 3 bands, you'd have to make the GUI bigger if you were to add any more. If you do add more, I don't think it should be more than 5. I also don't think it needs a new background or frequency markers. I just don't think it's that kind of plugin. That's like asking for a hardware-metaphor styled mixer in Tracktion. If you want that, go buy Samplitude or something.

One suggestion I like is having some GUI access to hidden params, especially master gain (it could just be a vertical strip off to the side or you could allow the response curve graphic to be moved up and down).

My 2 cents.

Cheers,
Steve
Kerrydan
KVRist
 
76 posts since 2 Jul, 2002, from Winnipeg, Canada

Postby Kerrydan; Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:08 pm

Guido01 wrote:Lo and Hi shelving in addition to the 3 existing bands would be cool.

I vote to keep the current 3-band version, and then use the same GUI concept to create a 2-band version, simply for shelving the high and low freqs. :)

You can then chain these if you need 5 bands, but if you only need 1-2, then you can select the appropriate one, and keep cpu resources to a minimum.

Or will cpu not be a major difference between 3- and 5-band versions?

-K
http://www.plogue.com/bidule/
~ Plogue Bidule User ~
VitaminD
Pick Me Pick me!
 
8536 posts since 11 Mar, 2002, from a state of confusion

Postby VitaminD; Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:18 pm

i chose 5

2 for extreme sides, 1 for middle and then 2 for opposite sides of middle (low mid and upper mid)

but whatever you decide.. please keep it as an odd amount of bands.. :P
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EnzymeX
KVRist
 
229 posts since 26 May, 2004

Postby EnzymeX; Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:49 pm

mauseoleum wrote:too much contrast hurts eyes PLUS the freq grid could be A BIT more pronounced AND marked with 100hz, 1k and 10k. and maybe a decibel here and there. so it won't be crowded.

i second prop about adding a separate page to access the *hidden* params - it's a nobrainer in host which allows for no-gui mode, but in hosts which don't, this would be a big bonus.

(darkers wear black :P )


I agree with the above, and I vote for 6 bands (add one more peaking filter plus high and low shelves). Seems you sometimes need one more mid band for taming occasional problem frequencies in addition to the "standard" 5 bands.

This is a bit off topic, but I would pay for a version of Nyquist that allowed dragging or typing in text values for the params (hidden or visible, I don't care).

Also, I always turn off compensation on the bands, so a global compensation on/off switch on the suggested "hidden page" would be nice to make my preferences sticky.

As it is, I can instantiate Nyquist in a Live 4 template with everything adjusted as I like via native GUI, but not every host can do that as others have noted...

What I can't do, however, is remote control nyquist without "hard coding" separate cc's for each instance in my host. I would prefer to set up my external controller to match published cc's for Nyquist. That would allow me to control ANY instance just by mapping my controller to the active track. BTW, If cc control is already implemented, someone please enlighten me! :D

The quality of the EQ itself is excellent. With the basic improvements suggested, I think this plug will be much more usable as a first call EQ in many hosts that lack a high quality EQ natively.
stefancrs
KVRAF
 
4630 posts since 20 Feb, 2004, from Gothenburg, Sweden

Postby stefancrs; Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:39 am

Any news on the updated version? :)
Stefan H Singer
Musician, coder and co-founder of We made you look Web agency
magnus@se
KVRist
 
74 posts since 19 Jan, 2003, from New York

Postby magnus@se; Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:30 pm

Alright, here is a 5 band version:

http://magnus.smartelectronix.com/

(the picture is still of the 3 band version, but the download -is- for the 5 band version)

Shamefully, I haven't added any of the other features that people requested, even though such a long time has passed. My apologies.

Anyway, I hope that the 5 band version will fall into your liking, and I appreciate everyone's comments and voting! For those who still prefer the 3 band version, I will keep a download link for that one on site.

- Magnus Jonsson
tuz
DC TC
 
2524 posts since 29 May, 2004

Postby tuz; Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:30 pm

It doesn't work in FL Studio. :cry:
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tuz
DC TC
 
2524 posts since 29 May, 2004

Postby tuz; Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:41 pm

FL studio crashed right after I put in the effect. is it fixable?
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