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Something like this woud be great! Of course you can click on any action in the past and return to its state.
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+1 or am I missing something?

control + z is ok but sometimes I just dont know what I did before and I cant see the action being undone. Could be handy.

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yea definatly nice, like photoshop etc! pls send out to tech support ;) it's cool..

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I don't mean to hijack this thread but is there anywhere "bug" or "feature" that Ctrl-Z does not work in the Piano roll for clips?

I add notes and try to undo, nothing. I am just really starting to use Bitwig now and not just write scripts and am noticing this.

Mike
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i do remember that they were looking for feedback about situations, where ctrl-z doesn't work. So if you can list them, just head them over i would guess. i also notice this, when the project gets bigger.

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TeotiGraphix wrote:I don't mean to hijack this thread but is there anywhere "bug" or "feature" that Ctrl-Z does not work in the Piano roll for clips?

I add notes and try to undo, nothing. I am just really starting to use Bitwig now and not just write scripts and am noticing this.

Mike
Check if keyboard Caps locks is activated, who knows

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carlosjcuevasm wrote:
TeotiGraphix wrote:I don't mean to hijack this thread but is there anywhere "bug" or "feature" that Ctrl-Z does not work in the Piano roll for clips?

I add notes and try to undo, nothing. I am just really starting to use Bitwig now and not just write scripts and am noticing this.

Mike
Check if keyboard Caps locks is activated, who knows
No it wasn't. I will just note when it happens again and send it to tech support.
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Would be cool :D
Looks like ps as previous explenation. :D
I whish also that history would be saved with project. So when you open bitwig you can undo the changes you made from the last time you run the project.
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ronnyrydgren wrote: I whish also that history would be saved with project. So when you open bitwig you can undo the changes you made from the last time you run the project.
yep, also nice suggestion!

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As a programmer, I can see some problems with this.

Question: Where do you draw the line on what is undoable and what is not? I suggest if you are writing this feature request, you add that in.

Do you want VST undo, or just application Action undo. Then you run the risk of undoing something that is in the undo stack that could possibly affect something elses state that wasn't recorded in the stack. :)

Take into consideration that using an undo history like Photoshop or any other application, the amount and complexity of the undo is stored in your precious RAM.

So, there are a lot of things to worry about with undo history and an application like Bitwig.

Just food for thought.

Mike
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One more;

Obviously Bitwig already has an internal undo stack, so if you are just talking about exposing that stack as a list, I am all for it. :)

Mike
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TeotiGraphix wrote:One more;

Obviously Bitwig already has an internal undo stack, so if you are just talking about exposing that stack as a list, I am all for it. :)

Mike
Yes they talk like an list, just like photoshop has one XD Bitwig starts to feel more photoshop, sometimes it makes me feel that i paint music :D soo this would be nice touch :D Anybody on for a feature that you can undo the last made setting when you open up your old project? That you can undo from something you saved that you discovered that you didn't like.
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ronnyrydgren wrote:
TeotiGraphix wrote:One more;

Obviously Bitwig already has an internal undo stack, so if you are just talking about exposing that stack as a list, I am all for it. :)

Mike
Yes they talk like an list, just like photoshop has one XD Bitwig starts to feel more photoshop, sometimes it makes me feel that i paint music :D soo this would be nice touch :D Anybody on for a feature that you can undo the last made setting when you open up your old project? That you can undo from something you saved that you discovered that you didn't like.
It could make sense if this was on the existing level as implemented in Bitwig right now. All they would need to do is serialize the undo action list into the project state and voila, you have the last history when you open up your project.

I only brought up dependencies in the last post because depending on what you allow to be undone, it can get really complex fast memory wise. But most are just references to existing data structures or straight off actions using primitive values like.

CreateTrackAction(1) where 1 is the location. Since in the context of an undo history, if you rewind back to that 1 index in the track list, everything is still in order. Those are really lightweight actions that they are supporting right now.

I will +1 this as well.
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TeotiGraphix wrote:As a programmer, I can see some problems with this.

Question: Where do you draw the line on what is undoable and what is not? I suggest if you are writing this feature request, you add that in.

Do you want VST undo, or just application Action undo. Then you run the risk of undoing something that is in the undo stack that could possibly affect something elses state that wasn't recorded in the stack. :)

Take into consideration that using an undo history like Photoshop or any other application, the amount and complexity of the undo is stored in your precious RAM.

So, there are a lot of things to worry about with undo history and an application like Bitwig.

Just food for thought.

Mike
The undo history wouldn't HAVE to be stored in RAM, only the references to the instructions.

P.S. Nice profile pic. Alex Grey is awesomesauce.

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powermat wrote:
TeotiGraphix wrote:As a programmer, I can see some problems with this.

Question: Where do you draw the line on what is undoable and what is not? I suggest if you are writing this feature request, you add that in.

Do you want VST undo, or just application Action undo. Then you run the risk of undoing something that is in the undo stack that could possibly affect something elses state that wasn't recorded in the stack. :)

Take into consideration that using an undo history like Photoshop or any other application, the amount and complexity of the undo is stored in your precious RAM.

So, there are a lot of things to worry about with undo history and an application like Bitwig.

Just food for thought.

Mike
The undo history wouldn't HAVE to be stored in RAM, only the references to the instructions.

P.S. Nice profile pic. Alex Grey is awesomesauce.
Yes, he is the sauce and has blown my mind for years. All my profile pics are that image and it's for one reason, for my self it is such a universal art piece. :)

As far as RAM, yeah sorry I didn't mean there are not options but for speed, RAM is the most efficient and why most undo lists have a slice point where it ditches commands after a limit.
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