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carlosjcuevasm carlosjcuevasm https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=315439
- KVRist
- 204 posts since 30 Oct, 2013 from Dominican Republic
+1 or am I missing something?
control + z is ok but sometimes I just dont know what I did before and I cant see the action being undone. Could be handy.
control + z is ok but sometimes I just dont know what I did before and I cant see the action being undone. Could be handy.
- KVRAF
- 4633 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
yea definatly nice, like photoshop etc! pls send out to tech support it's cool..
- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Meredith NH
I don't mean to hijack this thread but is there anywhere "bug" or "feature" that Ctrl-Z does not work in the Piano roll for clips?
I add notes and try to undo, nothing. I am just really starting to use Bitwig now and not just write scripts and am noticing this.
Mike
I add notes and try to undo, nothing. I am just really starting to use Bitwig now and not just write scripts and am noticing this.
Mike
Michael Schmalle
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- KVRAF
- 4633 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
i do remember that they were looking for feedback about situations, where ctrl-z doesn't work. So if you can list them, just head them over i would guess. i also notice this, when the project gets bigger.
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carlosjcuevasm carlosjcuevasm https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=315439
- KVRist
- 204 posts since 30 Oct, 2013 from Dominican Republic
Check if keyboard Caps locks is activated, who knowsTeotiGraphix wrote:I don't mean to hijack this thread but is there anywhere "bug" or "feature" that Ctrl-Z does not work in the Piano roll for clips?
I add notes and try to undo, nothing. I am just really starting to use Bitwig now and not just write scripts and am noticing this.
Mike
- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Meredith NH
No it wasn't. I will just note when it happens again and send it to tech support.carlosjcuevasm wrote:Check if keyboard Caps locks is activated, who knowsTeotiGraphix wrote:I don't mean to hijack this thread but is there anywhere "bug" or "feature" that Ctrl-Z does not work in the Piano roll for clips?
I add notes and try to undo, nothing. I am just really starting to use Bitwig now and not just write scripts and am noticing this.
Mike
Michael Schmalle
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine
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- Banned
- 1601 posts since 29 Sep, 2014 from Halmstad, Sweden
Would be cool
Looks like ps as previous explenation.
I whish also that history would be saved with project. So when you open bitwig you can undo the changes you made from the last time you run the project.
Looks like ps as previous explenation.
I whish also that history would be saved with project. So when you open bitwig you can undo the changes you made from the last time you run the project.
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- KVRAF
- 4633 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
yep, also nice suggestion!ronnyrydgren wrote: I whish also that history would be saved with project. So when you open bitwig you can undo the changes you made from the last time you run the project.
- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Meredith NH
As a programmer, I can see some problems with this.
Question: Where do you draw the line on what is undoable and what is not? I suggest if you are writing this feature request, you add that in.
Do you want VST undo, or just application Action undo. Then you run the risk of undoing something that is in the undo stack that could possibly affect something elses state that wasn't recorded in the stack.
Take into consideration that using an undo history like Photoshop or any other application, the amount and complexity of the undo is stored in your precious RAM.
So, there are a lot of things to worry about with undo history and an application like Bitwig.
Just food for thought.
Mike
Question: Where do you draw the line on what is undoable and what is not? I suggest if you are writing this feature request, you add that in.
Do you want VST undo, or just application Action undo. Then you run the risk of undoing something that is in the undo stack that could possibly affect something elses state that wasn't recorded in the stack.
Take into consideration that using an undo history like Photoshop or any other application, the amount and complexity of the undo is stored in your precious RAM.
So, there are a lot of things to worry about with undo history and an application like Bitwig.
Just food for thought.
Mike
Michael Schmalle
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine
- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Meredith NH
One more;
Obviously Bitwig already has an internal undo stack, so if you are just talking about exposing that stack as a list, I am all for it.
Mike
Obviously Bitwig already has an internal undo stack, so if you are just talking about exposing that stack as a list, I am all for it.
Mike
Michael Schmalle
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine
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- Banned
- 1601 posts since 29 Sep, 2014 from Halmstad, Sweden
Yes they talk like an list, just like photoshop has one XD Bitwig starts to feel more photoshop, sometimes it makes me feel that i paint music soo this would be nice touch Anybody on for a feature that you can undo the last made setting when you open up your old project? That you can undo from something you saved that you discovered that you didn't like.TeotiGraphix wrote:One more;
Obviously Bitwig already has an internal undo stack, so if you are just talking about exposing that stack as a list, I am all for it.
Mike
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Meredith NH
It could make sense if this was on the existing level as implemented in Bitwig right now. All they would need to do is serialize the undo action list into the project state and voila, you have the last history when you open up your project.ronnyrydgren wrote:Yes they talk like an list, just like photoshop has one XD Bitwig starts to feel more photoshop, sometimes it makes me feel that i paint music soo this would be nice touch Anybody on for a feature that you can undo the last made setting when you open up your old project? That you can undo from something you saved that you discovered that you didn't like.TeotiGraphix wrote:One more;
Obviously Bitwig already has an internal undo stack, so if you are just talking about exposing that stack as a list, I am all for it.
Mike
I only brought up dependencies in the last post because depending on what you allow to be undone, it can get really complex fast memory wise. But most are just references to existing data structures or straight off actions using primitive values like.
CreateTrackAction(1) where 1 is the location. Since in the context of an undo history, if you rewind back to that 1 index in the track list, everything is still in order. Those are really lightweight actions that they are supporting right now.
I will +1 this as well.
Michael Schmalle
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine
- KVRian
- 964 posts since 21 Sep, 2013
The undo history wouldn't HAVE to be stored in RAM, only the references to the instructions.TeotiGraphix wrote:As a programmer, I can see some problems with this.
Question: Where do you draw the line on what is undoable and what is not? I suggest if you are writing this feature request, you add that in.
Do you want VST undo, or just application Action undo. Then you run the risk of undoing something that is in the undo stack that could possibly affect something elses state that wasn't recorded in the stack.
Take into consideration that using an undo history like Photoshop or any other application, the amount and complexity of the undo is stored in your precious RAM.
So, there are a lot of things to worry about with undo history and an application like Bitwig.
Just food for thought.
Mike
P.S. Nice profile pic. Alex Grey is awesomesauce.
- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Meredith NH
Yes, he is the sauce and has blown my mind for years. All my profile pics are that image and it's for one reason, for my self it is such a universal art piece.powermat wrote:The undo history wouldn't HAVE to be stored in RAM, only the references to the instructions.TeotiGraphix wrote:As a programmer, I can see some problems with this.
Question: Where do you draw the line on what is undoable and what is not? I suggest if you are writing this feature request, you add that in.
Do you want VST undo, or just application Action undo. Then you run the risk of undoing something that is in the undo stack that could possibly affect something elses state that wasn't recorded in the stack.
Take into consideration that using an undo history like Photoshop or any other application, the amount and complexity of the undo is stored in your precious RAM.
So, there are a lot of things to worry about with undo history and an application like Bitwig.
Just food for thought.
Mike
P.S. Nice profile pic. Alex Grey is awesomesauce.
As far as RAM, yeah sorry I didn't mean there are not options but for speed, RAM is the most efficient and why most undo lists have a slice point where it ditches commands after a limit.
Michael Schmalle
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine
http://www.teotigraphix.com
Surfing on sine waves
Maschine4Bitwig - Studio, MK2, MikroMK2, MK1
http://www.teotigraphix.com/bitwig/maschine