Bitwig

nitram2k · Post by **nitram2k** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:52 am

nexttrack30 wrote:
Artales wrote:Same here, Edirol FA66 is showing up under WASAPI and causes an error, not under ASIO.
i have same problem.
edirol fa 66, windows7 64bit.
no asio. only windos wasapi.
good news is sound is coming out.

had no problem with ableton 9.1 asio.

i emailed contact. no answer.
but i understand there'd be craaaaaaazy amount of emials infront of them.

I also have an FA-66 and it's also only working under 'wasapi', however it's extremely sluggish even on 512 buffer..

I've mailed them yesterday and got a response in under 30 minutes from Dom:

a lot of other interfaces work, also with ASIO4 ALL. I guess we have to order an Edirol FA-66 interface to find out what it does differently than others.

Cheers,
Dom

So I guess they are on it, I've offered to help them out however I can but no reply yet. I hope this will be fixed soon as it's not quite usable in any serious projects for me right now..

Artales · Post by **Artales** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:41 am

Updated to latest version of JAVA, still no ASIO devices, nothing's working not even asio4all. My other DAW etc. is fine.
As I mentioned above, FA-66 is showing under WASAPI not ASIO, if I select it, it fails with "Engine failed to connect - PortAudio Pa_OpenStream failed. Error: Invalid device". So does Realtek, asio4all doesn't show anywhere.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:42 am

If Java would be the problem, it shouldn't work on any system I'd think?
It worked just fine on my Windows 8/8.1 system for the full time I was testing it (since last August).
I also have an older MacPro 2008 and a MacBookPro 2007 on which it both worked just fine.
I tested with said Presonus Firebox (until it broke some weeks ago - I had it for ages...) and a Yamaha USB Mixer as well as internal Audio of my Asus Mainboard, with and without asio4all.

So I guess something is special on some peoples systems (and especially with the Edirol Interface).

As for Java: I am not totally sure what parts are Java and how the whole system works at that level, other than that there is a specific GUI process and then separate Engines for Audio in 32 and 64 Bit plus the 32 Bit / 64 Bit Plugin hosts.

I have a JRE folder in my installation so I guess it's bundled - everything else would be rather complicated and you would see a separate Java installation too.

I hope this can be resolved by the devs fast!

Cheers,

Tom

kalbinsson · Post by **kalbinsson** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:48 am

My specs are:
Macbook Pro Retina 2012
OSX 10.9.2

Bitwig cannot find any of my audio interfaces:
Built-In audio
Fireface RME 800
Apogee One

All above interfaces is found by Audio/Midi setup tool as well as all my other DAWs, Live, Studio One, Logic etc.

I get Bitwig working on my Macbook Air though... So this should not be an user error...

I would love to get this baby working on my main setup which is my Macbook Pro.

/K

nexttrack30 · Post by **nexttrack30** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:16 pm

nitram2k wrote:
nexttrack30 wrote:
Artales wrote:Same here, Edirol FA66 is showing up under WASAPI and causes an error, not under ASIO.
i have same problem.
edirol fa 66, windows7 64bit.
no asio. only windos wasapi.
good news is sound is coming out.

had no problem with ableton 9.1 asio.

i emailed contact. no answer.
but i understand there'd be craaaaaaazy amount of emials infront of them.
I also have an FA-66 and it's also only working under 'wasapi', however it's extremely sluggish even on 512 buffer..

I've mailed them yesterday and got a response in under 30 minutes from Dom:

a lot of other interfaces work, also with ASIO4 ALL. I guess we have to order an Edirol FA-66 interface to find out what it does differently than others.

Cheers,
Dom
So I guess they are on it, I've offered to help them out however I can but no reply yet. I hope this will be fixed soon as it's not quite usable in any serious projects for me right now..

hope they have soundtoys plugins too since soundtoys plugins parameters are not showing.

kurasu · Post by **kurasu** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:32 pm

Hi,

We're looking into why this is happening on some machines and you could help us to troubleshoot this by using some command-line skills. Our application (GUI/document) and engine (audio/midi playback) are separate processes and when you go to the audio preferences, it is actually just invoking the engine process with a couple of arguments to have it present a list of the available audio devices and its metadata, and to help us figure out why its failing you could do the same

First you need to locate the engine executable, on windows it will be located at a location similar to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\x64\engine-x64.exe (for 64-bit windows)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\engine-x86.exe (for 32-bit windows)

And on mac it is inside the application bundle, relative path to it is:
/Accessories/BitwigStudioEngine

So first you need to open a console/terminal and cd to the parent directory of the engine.

Then invoke the engine executable like this (replace the executable name with the correct one on your platform):

engine-x64 io-apis
this will list which kind of audio APIs are available (in XML format)

engine-x64 io-devices xxx
this will list the audio devices and its meta-data available for a certain API (replace xxx with the api give by io-apis)
concrete examples on windows
engine-x64.exe io-devices ASIO
engine-x64.exe io-devices "Windows WASAPI"

And on mac:
BitwigStudioEngine io-devices "Core Audio"

Now just let us known what output it gives you and hopefully that can help us track down whats going on.

thanks,
- Claes

Artales · Post by **Artales** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:57 pm

c:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\x64>engine-x64 io-apis
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Io>
<HostApis>
<HostApi id="0" name="ASIO" deviceCount="2" defaultInputDevice="0" default
OutputDevice="0" />
<HostApi id="1" name="Windows WASAPI" deviceCount="12" defaultInputDevice=
"9" defaultOutputDevice="3" />
</HostApis>
</Io>

Artales · Post by **Artales** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:20 pm

c:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\x64>engine-x64.exe io-devices ASI
O
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Io>
<AudioDevices>
<AudioDevice id="0" name="ASIO4ALL v2" hostApi="ASIO" numInputs="2" numOut
puts="8" defaultInputLatency="0.01161" defaultOutputLatency="0.01161" defaultSam
pleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
<BufferSize min="64" max="2048" preferred="512" granularity="8" />
<Inputs>
<Input name="HD Digital input 1" />
<Input name="HD Digital input 2" />
</Inputs>
<Outputs>
<Output name="HD Audio output 1" />
<Output name="HD Audio output 2" />
<Output name="HD Audio output 3" />
<Output name="HD Audio output 4" />
<Output name="HD Audio output 5" />
<Output name="HD Audio output 6" />
<Output name="HD Audio output 7" />
<Output name="HD Audio output 8" />
</Outputs>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="1" name="EDIROL FA-66" hostApi="ASIO" numInputs="6" numOu
tputs="6" defaultInputLatency="0.0029932" defaultOutputLatency="0.0029932" defau
ltSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100">
<BufferSize min="132" max="132" preferred="132" granularity="0" />
<Inputs>
<Input name="MicIn1 left" />
<Input name="MicIn1 right" />
<Input name="LineIn 3&4 left" />
<Input name="LineIn 3&4 right" />
<Input name="SpdifIn left" />
<Input name="SpdifIn right" />
</Inputs>
<Outputs>
<Output name="LineOut 1&2 left" />
<Output name="LineOut 1&2 right" />
<Output name="LineOut 3&4 left" />
<Output name="LineOut 3&4 right" />
<Output name="SpdifOut left" />
<Output name="SpdifOut right" />
</Outputs>
</AudioDevice>
</AudioDevices>
</Io>

c:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\x64>engine-x64.exe io-devices "Wi
ndows WASAPI"
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Io>
<AudioDevices>
<AudioDevice id="2" name="FA-66 Out 3 (FA-66)" hostApi="Windows WASAPI" nu
mInputs="0" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.0" defaultOutputLatency="0.003
" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100">
<Jacks>
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="3" name="Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)" hostAp
i="Windows WASAPI" numInputs="0" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.0" defaul
tOutputLatency="0.003" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,4
8000,96000,192000">
<Jacks>
<Jack id = "0" isConnected="1" />
<Jack id = "1" isConnected="1" />
<Jack id = "2" isConnected="1" />
<Jack id = "3" isConnected="1" />
<Jack id = "4" isConnected="1" />
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="4" name="FA-66 Out 1 (FA-66)" hostApi="Windows WASAPI" nu
mInputs="0" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.0" defaultOutputLatency="0.003
" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100">
<Jacks>
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="5" name="FA-66 Out 2 (FA-66)" hostApi="Windows WASAPI" nu
mInputs="0" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.0" defaultOutputLatency="0.003
" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100">
<Jacks>
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="6" name="Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition
Audio)" hostApi="Windows WASAPI" numInputs="0" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatenc
y="0.0" defaultOutputLatency="0.003" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSample
Rates="44100,48000,96000,192000">
<Jacks>
<Jack id = "0" isConnected="1" />
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="7" name="Stereo Mix (Realtek High Definition Audio)" host
Api="Windows WASAPI" numInputs="2" numOutputs="0" defaultInputLatency="0.003" de
faultOutputLatency="0.0" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100
,48000,96000">
<Jacks>
<Jack id = "0" isConnected="1" />
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="8" name="FA-66 In 2 (FA-66)" hostApi="Windows WASAPI" num
Inputs="2" numOutputs="0" defaultInputLatency="0.003" defaultOutputLatency="0.0"
defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100">
<Jacks>
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="9" name="Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)" host
Api="Windows WASAPI" numInputs="2" numOutputs="0" defaultInputLatency="0.003" de
faultOutputLatency="0.0" defaultSampleRate="48000.0" supportedSampleRates="">
<Jacks>
<Jack id = "0" isConnected="1" />
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="10" name="Realtek Digital Input (Realtek High Definition
Audio)" hostApi="Windows WASAPI" numInputs="2" numOutputs="0" defaultInputLatenc
y="0.003" defaultOutputLatency="0.0" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSample
Rates="44100,48000,96000,192000">
<Jacks>
<Jack id = "0" isConnected="1" />
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="11" name="FA-66 In 3 (FA-66)" hostApi="Windows WASAPI" nu
mInputs="2" numOutputs="0" defaultInputLatency="0.003" defaultOutputLatency="0.0
" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100">
<Jacks>
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="12" name="CD Audio (Realtek High Definition Audio)" hostA
pi="Windows WASAPI" numInputs="2" numOutputs="0" defaultInputLatency="0.003" def
aultOutputLatency="0.0" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,
48000,96000">
<Jacks>
<Jack id = "0" isConnected="1" />
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="13" name="FA-66 In 1 (FA-66)" hostApi="Windows WASAPI" nu
mInputs="2" numOutputs="0" defaultInputLatency="0.003" defaultOutputLatency="0.0
" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100">
<Jacks>
</Jacks>
</AudioDevice>
</AudioDevices>
</Io>

Artales · Post by **Artales** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:24 pm

Got the FA-66 working under WASAPI using 512 buffer then switched to 256. Manually added MIDI controllers Akai LPK25 and LPD8.

nexttrack30 · Post by **nexttrack30** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:32 pm

kurasu wrote:Hi,

First you need to locate the engine executable, on windows it will be located at a location similar to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\x64\engine-x64.exe (for 64-bit windows)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\engine-x86.exe (for 32-bit windows)

And on mac it is inside the application bundle, relative path to it is:
/Accessories/BitwigStudioEngine

So first you need to open a console/terminal and cd to the parent directory of the engine.

Then invoke the engine executable like this (replace the executable name with the correct one on your platform):

engine-x64 io-apis
this will list which kind of audio APIs are available (in XML format)

engine-x64 io-devices xxx
this will list the audio devices and its meta-data available for a certain API (replace xxx with the api give by io-apis)
concrete examples on windows
engine-x64.exe io-devices ASIO
engine-x64.exe io-devices "Windows WASAPI"

And on mac:
BitwigStudioEngine io-devices "Core Audio"

Now just let us known what output it gives you and hopefully that can help us track down whats going on.

thanks,
- Claes

thank you but i can't understand what you are saying

could you please explain easily those bold words again?

searlstudio · Post by **searlstudio** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:02 pm

<HostApis>
<HostApi id="0" name="Core Audio" deviceCount="9" defaultInputDevice="1" defaultOutputDevice="6" />
</HostApis>
</Io>

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Io>
<AudioDevices>
2014-03-27 09:52:06.245 BitwigStudioEngine[919:507] 09:52:06.244 WARNING: [0x7fff76805310] >compload> AudioComponentPluginLoader.cpp:662: RegisterComponentsFromArray:
2014-03-27 09:52:06.246 BitwigStudioEngine[919:507] 09:52:06.246 WARNING: [0x7fff76805310] >compload> AudioComponentPluginLoader.cpp:662: RegisterComponentsFromArray:
2014-03-27 09:52:06.247 BitwigStudioEngine[919:507] 09:52:06.247 WARNING: [0x7fff76805310] >compload> AudioComponentPluginLoader.cpp:662: RegisterComponentsFromArray:
2014-03-27 09:52:06.248 BitwigStudioEngine[919:507] 09:52:06.248 WARNING: [0x7fff76805310] >compload> AudioComponentPluginLoader.cpp:662: RegisterComponentsFromArray:
<AudioDevice id="0" name="AirPlay" hostApi="Core Audio" numInputs="0" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.01" defaultOutputLatency="2.00145" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="1" name="Built-in Microph" hostApi="Core Audio" numInputs="2" numOutputs="0" defaultInputLatency="0.00301587" defaultOutputLatency="0.01" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="2" name="Built-in Output" hostApi="Core Audio" numInputs="0" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.01" defaultOutputLatency="0.00995465" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="3" name="HDMI" hostApi="Core Audio" numInputs="0" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.01" defaultOutputLatency="0.00316667" defaultSampleRate="48000.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="4" name="Soundflower (2ch)" hostApi="Core Audio" numInputs="2" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.01" defaultOutputLatency="0.00145125" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="5" name="Soundflower (16ch)" hostApi="Core Audio" numInputs="16" numOutputs="16" defaultInputLatency="0.01" defaultOutputLatency="0.00145125" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="6" name="Steinberg UR824" hostApi="Core Audio" numInputs="12" numOutputs="26" defaultInputLatency="0.01" defaultOutputLatency="0.00471655" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="7" name="INTEGRA-7 44.1kHz" hostApi="Core Audio" numInputs="2" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.01" defaultOutputLatency="0.00553288" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
</AudioDevice>
<AudioDevice id="8" name="i7 & UR824" hostApi="Core Audio" numInputs="14" numOutputs="28" defaultInputLatency="0.01" defaultOutputLatency="0.00553288" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
</AudioDevice>
</AudioDevices>
</Io>

daytwa · Post by **daytwa** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:49 pm

Here's mine:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Io>
    USB\VID_23E8&PID_0100\0000001004040
    USB\VID_23E8&PID_0100\0000001004040
   <HostApis>
      <HostApi id="0" name="ASIO" deviceCount="2" defaultInputDevice="0" default OutputDevice="0" />
      <HostApi id="1" name="Windows WASAPI" deviceCount="5" defaultInputDevice="5" defaultOutputDevice="3" />
   </HostApis>
</Io>

kurasu · Post by **kurasu** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:48 pm

daytwa wrote:Here's mine:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Io>
    USB\VID_23E8&PID_0100\0000001004040
    USB\VID_23E8&PID_0100\0000001004040
   <HostApis>
      <HostApi id="0" name="ASIO" deviceCount="2" defaultInputDevice="0" default OutputDevice="0" />
      <HostApi id="1" name="Windows WASAPI" deviceCount="5" defaultInputDevice="5" defaultOutputDevice="3" />
   </HostApis>
</Io>

Ah, this is just what i was looking for. Those USB\VID... things shouldn't be there..

anxiousmofo · Post by **anxiousmofo** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:53 pm

Same problem with the demo here. It does not detect my interface.

Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP, Windows 7 x64

nitram2k · Post by **nitram2k** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:18 pm

Mine :

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\x64>engine-x64.exe io-apis
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Io>
AudioSM::init nChannels is 0
   <HostApis>
      <HostApi id="0" name="ASIO" deviceCount="4" defaultInputDevice="0" default
OutputDevice="0" />
      <HostApi id="1" name="Windows WASAPI" deviceCount="10" defaultInputDevice=
"13" defaultOutputDevice="4" />
   </HostApis>
</Io>



C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\x64>engine-x64.exe io-devices 'Wi
ndows WASAPI'
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Io>
AudioSM::init nChannels is 0
   <AudioDevices>
</Io>

C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\x64>




C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitwig Studio 1.0.2\bin\x64>engine-x64.exe io-devices ASI
O
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Io>
AudioSM::init nChannels is 0
   <AudioDevices>
      <AudioDevice id="0" name="ASIO4ALL v2" hostApi="ASIO" numInputs="6" numOut
puts="2" defaultInputLatency="0.01161" defaultOutputLatency="0.01161" defaultSam
pleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,176400,192000">
         <BufferSize min="64" max="2048" preferred="512" granularity="8" />
         <Inputs>
            <Input name="Virus TI Audio 1" />
            <Input name="Virus TI Audio 2" />
            <Input name="Virus TI Audio 3" />
            <Input name="Virus TI Audio 4" />
            <Input name="Virus TI Audio 5" />
            <Input name="Virus TI Audio 6" />
         </Inputs>
         <Outputs>
            <Output name="Virus TI Audio 1" />
            <Output name="Virus TI Audio 2" />
         </Outputs>
      </AudioDevice>
      <AudioDevice id="1" name="EDIROL FA-66" hostApi="ASIO" numInputs="6" numOu
tputs="6" defaultInputLatency="0.00798186" defaultOutputLatency="0.00798186" def
aultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100">
         <BufferSize min="352" max="352" preferred="352" granularity="0" />
         <Inputs>
            <Input name="MicIn1 left" />
            <Input name="MicIn1 right" />
            <Input name="LineIn 3&4 left" />
            <Input name="LineIn 3&4 right" />
            <Input name="SpdifIn left" />
            <Input name="SpdifIn right" />
         </Inputs>
         <Outputs>
            <Output name="LineOut 1&2 left" />
            <Output name="LineOut 1&2 right" />
            <Output name="LineOut 3&4 left" />
            <Output name="LineOut 3&4 right" />
            <Output name="SpdifOut left" />
            <Output name="SpdifOut right" />
         </Outputs>
      </AudioDevice>
      <AudioDevice id="2" name="Generic Low Latency ASIO Driver" hostApi="ASIO"
numInputs="2" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.02" defaultOutputLatency="0.
02" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000,88200,96000,17
6400,192000">
         <BufferSize min="882" max="882" preferred="882" granularity="882" />
         <Inputs>
            <Input name="FA-66 In 3 (FA-66) 1" />
            <Input name="FA-66 In 3 (FA-66) 2" />
         </Inputs>
         <Outputs>
            <Output name="FA-66 Out 1 (FA-66) 1" />
            <Output name="FA-66 Out 1 (FA-66) 2" />
         </Outputs>
      </AudioDevice>
AudioSM::init nChannels is 0
AudioSM::init nChannels is 0
AudioSM::init nChannels is 0
AudioSM::init nChannels is 0
AudioSM::init nChannels is 0
AudioSM::init nChannels is 0
      <AudioDevice id="3" name="Virus USB ASIO driver" hostApi="ASIO" numInputs=
"2" numOutputs="2" defaultInputLatency="0.00290249" defaultOutputLatency="0.0029
0249" defaultSampleRate="44100.0" supportedSampleRates="44100,48000">
         <BufferSize min="128" max="128" preferred="128" granularity="0" />
         <Inputs>
            <Input name="In 1" />
            <Input name="In 2" />
         </Inputs>
         <Outputs>
            <Output name="Out 1" />
            <Output name="Out 2" />
         </Outputs>
      </AudioDevice>
   </AudioDevices>
</Io>

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