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- KVRAF
- 4123 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
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- KVRAF
- 4123 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Nice one, hakey! Impressive.hakey wrote:My attempt at a classical guitar in Diva - no outboard processing (mainly a lot of tweaking/comparing against the real thing, and some luck):
Classical Diva
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Bronto Scorpio Bronto Scorpio https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=98170 - KVRAF
- 5546 posts since 13 Feb, 2006 from Wiesmoor, Germany
IndeedHoward wrote:Nice one, hakey! Impressive.hakey wrote:My attempt at a classical guitar in Diva - no outboard processing (mainly a lot of tweaking/comparing against the real thing, and some luck
Classical Diva
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Dennis
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- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
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- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 28 Feb, 2011
Wow. That is great work hakey! Amazing fingering and buzzing sounds! The midi clip must be providing the fingering.
A lot of people mistake my playing for real guitar (not that you would), and it's not just the electric stuff but the acoustic. When I use sampled nylon string guitars for example, I don't even use key switches (too complicated, besides that's cheating!
), but there's a lot of guitar playing technique, strumming, legato playing, dynamic style, etc., that you can play into a midi file. That stuff is more important than the sound imo. You can even play a quite different sound using guitar techniques and it will often still sound "like a guitar." It's interesting how the mind is so intimately involved in the perception of the sound.
A lot of people mistake my playing for real guitar (not that you would), and it's not just the electric stuff but the acoustic. When I use sampled nylon string guitars for example, I don't even use key switches (too complicated, besides that's cheating!
), but there's a lot of guitar playing technique, strumming, legato playing, dynamic style, etc., that you can play into a midi file. That stuff is more important than the sound imo. You can even play a quite different sound using guitar techniques and it will often still sound "like a guitar." It's interesting how the mind is so intimately involved in the perception of the sound.-
- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
Thanks - like I say, a lot of it is down to the midi file I used (that kind of guitar articulation is very difficult to fake with a keyboard, as I'm sure you know).Gonga wrote:Amazing fingering and buzzing sounds!
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- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
.... and it looks to me like it was recorded live. How the tremolo bits - the rapid, repeated notes (on a guitar it's the same string plucked with three fingers, one after the other, so that the plucks all run together) - were achieved is anyone's guess. 
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
Again, this is gorgeous!hakey wrote:My attempt at a classical guitar in Diva - no outboard processing (mainly a lot of tweaking/comparing against the real thing, and some lucktrance_lucent wrote: Also with luck sometimes it is possible to manage without EQ resonances and use only that comb filter, but it is need careful tweaking of Tune, Tone and Flavour knobs.
Classical Diva
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- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
Seems it is.hakey wrote:is it possible to use an impulse response to recreate body resonance?
Here's an acoustic guitar IR:
https://ccrma.stanford.edu/realsimple/a ... trbody.wav
It does add some guitar body flavour when used as a convolution IR.
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- KVRist
- 426 posts since 27 Sep, 2005
hakey! Your Diva's guitar is damn great! So warm!
Here is my Zebra attempt of bright acoustic guitar. It still need much tweaking (especially keytracking and velocity-tracking behaviour).
Two versions:
1. My own crude body-emulation attempt (using comb end eq). I'll definetely redo it with new information from aforementioned papers.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/Zebra_ ... ation).mp3
or
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/zag_comb_eq.mp3
2. with gtrbody impulse response.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/Zebra_ ... ponse).mp3
or
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/zag_real_body.mp3
In comparison to real body impulse response, my body sounds more "eastern"
Edit: added alternative short names for easier use.
Here is my Zebra attempt of bright acoustic guitar. It still need much tweaking (especially keytracking and velocity-tracking behaviour).
Two versions:
1. My own crude body-emulation attempt (using comb end eq). I'll definetely redo it with new information from aforementioned papers.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/Zebra_ ... ation).mp3
or
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/zag_comb_eq.mp3
2. with gtrbody impulse response.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/Zebra_ ... ponse).mp3
or
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/zag_real_body.mp3
In comparison to real body impulse response, my body sounds more "eastern"
Edit: added alternative short names for easier use.
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- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
Nice patches trance-lucent!
Sounds rather zitherish - in a good way - but that's probably got as much to do with the playing style.
There's some great midis with guitar articulation here:
http://www.iama.gr/music/midi.html
"Orfeo Negro" is a good un.
Sounds rather zitherish - in a good way - but that's probably got as much to do with the playing style.
There's some great midis with guitar articulation here:
http://www.iama.gr/music/midi.html
"Orfeo Negro" is a good un.
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- KVRian
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
@hakey & Trance Lucent:
both soundfiles are amazing (both sounds & playing/music)
Do you use a midi-guitar or is this played on a keyboard?
both soundfiles are amazing (both sounds & playing/music)
Do you use a midi-guitar or is this played on a keyboard?
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- KVRist
- 112 posts since 15 Feb, 2012
I bet a MIDI guitar controller figured heavily in creating those sequences.hakey wrote:No, I cheated... I used a midi file for my clip (link in my last post).Arrested Developer wrote:Do you use a midi-guitar or is this played on a keyboard?
